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AI that creates Mindblowing Art (Free)

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24 minutes ago, zurew said:

It can create really good horror images. This tool is way too good.

Yes! Those are some creepy faces ?

I made some more too.

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8 minutes ago, zurew said:

Giving Elon Musk some tips, how to make a Mars colony xD

Exactly. 

Elon is gonna have his office in the big tower to the right.

Folks like us will have to live in these smaller bungalows ?

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On 5/14/2022 at 11:54 AM, ItsNick said:

It becomes interesting when real artists start to use AI as an aid.

Like this:

 

Wow! This is amazing! I am stealing this for my blog.


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Everything in this thread is old tech.  No longer news-worthy.  What you want is "Dalle 2".  Though it's not yet fully open to the public, it's at least an order of magnitude more impressive.

 

https://openai.com/dall-e-2/

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@thisintegrated This stuff is basically just the cut-up technique done robotically, throwing randoms together or making slight readjustments and then calling it impressive. But perhaps it will develop into something greater . . .

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3 minutes ago, AtheisticNonduality said:

@thisintegrated This stuff is basically just the cut-up technique done robotically, throwing randoms together or making slight readjustments and then calling it impressive. But perhaps it will develop into something greater . . .

An interesting way to sum up the most advanced machine learning systems known to man?

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@thisintegrated I'm not terribly inclined to be amazed with this stuff---well it's not even really stuff, just collage nonsense---but I recognize it's the infrastructure/foundation for something else to come.

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1 minute ago, AtheisticNonduality said:

@thisintegrated I'm not terribly inclined to be amazed with this stuff---well it's not even really stuff, just collage nonsense---but I recognize it's the infrastructure/foundation for something else to come.

Alright.  You've made me do it.

Don't blame me if your mind is blown..

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1cF9QCu1rQ

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19 minutes ago, thisintegrated said:

Alright.  You've made me do it.

Don't blame me if your mind is blown..

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1cF9QCu1rQ

They attempted to distinguish it from random images, from the cut-up technique, by pointing out how it has a sort of logical synthesis to it and how they pull from "aesthetic" data. And yet, so far, I remain unimpressed. The images are missing something: they all look the same and feel the same. There's no element of creation, just of computing something that was already created in the text into a factory-type process. New creations are not existent in those programs, solely hogwash that allows programmers' self-aggrandizement.

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3 minutes ago, AtheisticNonduality said:

They attempted to distinguish it from random images, from the cut-up technique, by pointing out how it has a sort of logical synthesis to it and how they pull from "aesthetic" data. And yet, so far, I remain unimpressed. The images are missing something: they all look the same and feel the same. There's no element of creation, just of computing something that was already created in the text into a factory-type process. New creations are not existent in those programs, solely hogwash that allows programmers' self-aggrandizement.

Designing a space suit for a dolphin kind of requires creativity.  There exists no data on what this should look like, yet the algorithm manages to make one.

 

There is no limit to what it can make

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17 minutes ago, thisintegrated said:

Designing a space suit for a dolphin kind of requires creativity.  There exists no data on what this should look like, yet the algorithm manages to make one.

That's the logical synthesis I said.

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There is no limit to what it can make

It is limited to what instructions it receives. So far it does not have a consciousness of its own that arose out of eternities of evolutionary complexification; it has no mind of its own to create its own worlds. It's still a set of pathways that mesh different human-given "datas" together and is not able to survive outside the womb so to speak, is still dependent on instruction and then reassembling data points. It has no creativity since what it creates is essentially nothing, worthless, bad, so it cannot be said to be a creator but rather an ungodly stagnation. It cannot have any existing reference for what a dolphin wearing a space helmet looks like exactly, but it still has the proper parts given as "dolphin" and "wearing" and "space helmet" and such. It may "understand" what a dolphin is, what pattern that a dolphin's nose has, what it means spatially/dimensionally to wear something, that a space helmet adheres directly around an object's boundaries rather than ten feet from it, etc. It's just basic logic skills, like how machines play chess. But it's not creative in the slightest, since to be a creator requires agency, and nothing has less agency than something that literally requires programming to function.

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13 minutes ago, AtheisticNonduality said:

It is limited to what instructions it receives. So far it does not have a consciousness of its own that arose out of eternities of evolutionary complexification; it has no mind of its own to create its own worlds. It's still a set of pathways that mesh different human-given datas together and is not able to survive outside the womb so to speak, is still dependent on instruction and then reassembling data points. It has no creativity since what it creates is essentially nothing, worthless, bad, so it cannot be said to be creator but rather an ungodly stagnation. It cannot have any existing reference for what a dolphin wearing a space helmet looks like exactly, but it still has the proper parts given as "dolphin" and "wearing" and "space helmet" and such. It may "understand" what a dolphin is, what pattern that a dolphins nose has, what it means spatially/dimensionally to wear something, that a space helmet adheres directly around an object's boundaries rather than ten feet from it, etc. It's just basic logic skills, like how machines play chess. But it's not creative in the slightest, since to be a creator requires agency, and nothing has less agency than something that literally requires programming to function.

How is the AI's creativity different from ours?  Humans use pattern recognition, and so do machines.  If a human wanted to draw a space suit for an animal, they'd rely on past memories in the form of visual data.

 

No thought is ever truly original.

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1 minute ago, AtheisticNonduality said:

@thisintegrated Human's will to power.

Yes, that's unique to consciousness, but has nothing to do with creative ability.

Desire isn't the same as creativity.  Creativity is just a tool.

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Basically, because humans possess a will to power, we may discern of them that they've passed all the proper examinations to reach this level of development and therefore are awarded creativity as a principle, more or less in certain individuals. First, they had to pass the great leap of abiogenesis from non-life, the dead matter of old, into microscopic primordiality of the earliest lives: the lives closest to pre-lives/deaths. Then they ascended through various taxonomical orders and gained complexity along the way, going from mere matter to formed matter as body and body to soul and then soul to mind. All of this is made of countless billions of molecules that make up more billions of organelles that are integral to billions of cells that create great organs and organ systems and organisms and societies. This level of complexity cannot be accounted for by copying certain elements of the human mind like "raw logic" since that just results in dissociative nonsense and hideousness devoid of all the stepping stones like body, soul, and the fullness of the mind. A specific sliver of the mind copied into algorithmic insanity is a failure of life.

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