% of people here saying ultimate truths really understand what they're saying?

[Mips]

As per the title, I wonder what percent of people on the forum who say ultimate truths really understand what they're saying? I see that Leo has understood this stuff as his journey is laid bare here. 

But many people on many threads are constantly saying things like 'there are no others', 'life is a dream', 'there is no centre' & other ultimate truths.

But is there a culture of people trying to sound wise but not really understanding the core of what they're saying? And if so, how many other than Leo have really plumbed the depth of this to justify their position of ultimate mastery?

Edit: I'm also absolutely open to the possibility that there are a lot of enlightened people on here.

Edited March 5, 2022 by Mips

[BipolarGrowth]

There are a number of people who understand things to a pretty notable degree here. I say this mostly due to having many extensive one-on-one conversations with people I’ve met through the forum. 
 

There are even people who I thought were relatively clueless in regard to spirituality while only seeing their posts, but they were shown to know far more than expected once I was able to hear them out in a format which allows for more information to be shared. 

 

Keep in mind that every person has different subtleties held within their usage of common words like awakening, awareness, ego, etc. The forum is not an easy place to understand what people actually are meaning when they say words such as those. In a lot of cases, a plethora of experiences are informing their individual definition of a term such as those even if both of you agree to the same shorthand definition. A text-based conversation simply does not leave enough room for these subtleties to be hashed out unless you want to spend literally multiple extra hours typing compared to how long it might take in verbal communication. 

Edited March 5, 2022 by BipolarGrowth

[Thought Art]

*Looks at hands*

Probably a low percentage have deep levels of understanding.

Everyone is the Truth. But, we are in the process of learning about ourself.

Edited March 5, 2022 by Thought Art

[Thought Art]

I have experienced "Wu Chi" I have experienced the absolute Truth/ aspects of it. But, I am still novice in my ability to understand things.I have experienced the "void" or the seed of all being... Or, that I am God.

[Vincent S]

On 3/5/2022 at 8:23 PM, Mips said:

As per the title, I wonder what percent of people on the forum who say ultimate truths really understand what they're saying? I see that Leo has understood this stuff as his journey is laid bare here. 

But many people on many threads are constantly saying things like 'there are no others', 'life is a dream', 'there is no centre' & other ultimate truths.

But is there a culture of people trying to sound wise but not really understanding the core of what they're saying? And if so, how many other than Leo have really plumbed the depth of this to justify their position of ultimate mastery?

Edit: I'm also absolutely open to the possibility that there are a lot of enlightened people on here.

What someone says on a post is a very small percentage of what really goes on in "their" lives, psyche, level of understanding, and the processes they are undergoing. I think we are very fast to judge someone and their level of understanding, just by a comment they have left on some topic. (I have been guilty of this previously. And I think its the same for most of us)

Its really easy for people to just be picking up the "language" that is being communicated here, a lot of people might just be picking up on the "vibes" of the forum and just be "going with it." (Later on they will also realize what was being conveyed in the topics/comments)

But everyone is on their own journey, and its all about: Remembering what we Truly are. I think we all get surprised as to what we say or write sometimes, as if we are writing it for our "future" selves. Leaving Easter-Eggs here and there, for ourselves. And be surprised to see that we were what we always were searching for

The thing that gave me a HUGE relief, was the realization that there is no "separate" other, we are all One. There is no-one to be better than. And to quote Peaceful Warrior: "You will never be better than anybody, same way you can never be worse."

[Vincent S]

This is a process I think we all go through, in some way shape or form.

1. Belief. (Airy Fairy wowoo stuff and mental masturbation)
2. Action on your belief. (Doing the work and putting in the effort. Not stopping until you hit Truth)
3. Direct experience. (Absolute, Definitive Realization that erases all previous beliefs, thoughts and concepts. You are just left with what is. Once you have your direct experience, its there. Solid. With or without your beliefs or actions)

Everything in this process, that falls off of you, is all Untrue/False stuff. What stays is Absolute Truth. If you have done it right, of course.

[axiom]

On 05/03/2022 at 7:23 PM, Mips said:

As per the title, I wonder what percent of people on the forum who say ultimate truths really understand what they're saying? I see that Leo has understood this stuff as his journey is laid bare here. 

But many people on many threads are constantly saying things like 'there are no others', 'life is a dream', 'there is no centre' & other ultimate truths.

But is there a culture of people trying to sound wise but not really understanding the core of what they're saying? And if so, how many other than Leo have really plumbed the depth of this to justify their position of ultimate mastery?

Edit: I'm also absolutely open to the possibility that there are a lot of enlightened people on here.

It’s just hubris. No one here really has any clue at all. 

[Thought Art]

On 2022-03-06 at 6:53 PM, axiom said:

It’s just hubris. No one here really has any clue at all. 

Which you have no evidence lol

[Breakingthewall]

many have moments of lucidity and express them masterfully. those same ones can be foolish and arrogant at another time