Casual sex = More depression and anxiety?

[unborn_chicken]

 

Thoughts on this?

[zazen]

Yes, there is nothing casual about sex (especially for women). People sleeping around and getting into emotional turmoil with baggage end up traumatised and less likely to fully trust / function healthily in future relationships unless a lot of work is done. Everyone has baggage, but is it carry on or excess. This leads to family breakdown which leads to further consequences. See the quote below:

''Individuals deprived the bonds of family by outcome of immutable social factors are often at odds with civilization. Such individuals give up on community, opting for a more parasitic survival strategy. They are the shameless narcissists, the angry barbarians and each and every shade of dysfunction there between. Scarcely do such people care for civilization. And how can we expect them to care for something as grand and abstract as civilization when such individuals were never fully subject to the bonds of family?

Familial estrangement manufactures apathy. This is how promiscuity and divorce undermine social progress, and in turn, civilizational progress. The effects of such action cause pain, which in turn, promotes excessive individualism and a disdain for collectivism. And so the cosmic recurrence that is a need for balance is tipped too far in one direction. That is, an obsession with the self (individualism, narcissism) and a disregard for the whole (collectivism, abstraction.)

Naturally, this is bad for family. And what is bad for family is in turn bad for civilization. Each family represents a building block in the construction of civilization. Families (in the traditional sense of the word) contribute more value to society than lone individuals. Generally speaking, they have better mental health, a higher sense of civic duty, are more productive, and pay more taxes than broken homes or one person households. And this seems only rational. Family is bound by blood, civilization forms around the desires and needs of such bonds. People work harder and produce more when they care for and are cared for by others.''

[ValiantSalvatore]

@unborn_chicken This dude is a diagnosed malignant and cerebral narcissist or not? 

Edited November 10, 2021 by ValiantSalvatore

[Leo Gura]

The point of casual sex is that it is part of a larger process of finding a good long-term partner and building up skills and experience.

[unborn_chicken]

@Leo Gura Yes, in the video he mentions as he cites various studies that most of the people who engaged in casual sex had an intention or hope that it would lead to a long term relationship, contrary to the popular belief that people did it with a "no strings attached" kind of attitude. However the percentage of people who reported their hookups leading to a relationship was very low.

At the same time, very curiously, other studies found that most people are forming long term relationships with previous casual sex partners, but because casual sex rarely leads to a relationship, then the overall conclusion is that people are having less relationships than ever, specially in western countries where hookup culture is mostly established.

In not trying to claim anything or reach any conclusions yet, but there certainly seem to be some problems with having casual sex culturally as the main way to find a mate.

Not to mentions other things he cites, like a lot of them leading to rape and other bad stuff.

[unborn_chicken]

@ValiantSalvatore How does that affect the arguments and studies he's presenting?

[Leo Gura]

Dude, when you meet your dream girl you will not have the skills to close her. You will fuck it up.

You can easily convert casual sex into a relationship. Like maybe 50% conversion rate if you want.

Edited November 11, 2021 by Leo Gura

[tsuki]

@Leo Gura Have you met your dream girl?

[unborn_chicken]

15 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

You can easily convert casual sex into a relationship. Like maybe 50% conversion rate if you want.

@Leo Gura I'm sure some skilled individuals can, but I don't think that represents the majority of people, that's why the the video was more oriented towards the societal/cultural aspect of it, not about somebody's personal potential of becoming really good at getting sex from women.

 

 

[Raze]

I have seen some evidence there is a correlation between casual sex and depression / anxiety among women, but it is correlation, that doesn't necessarily prove causation, and I can't find anything for men.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/fulfillment-any-age/201303/how-casual-sex-can-affect-our-mental-health

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC11182