Limit to God's Will? Isn't God Infinity & Limitless?

[Akash M]

Hey @Leo Gura,

Can't God save its mother?

Limit to God's Will?

Noticed a contradiction ? in your videos:
1) God is Infinity & Limitless.
2) God's Will only goes for the manifestation of highest Love, and hence God can't save its mother!

Isn't God Infinity & Limitless?

Do you see a future super-malt ? letting God save its mother without the highest Love Limit?

[Leo Gura]

What you're missing is that in this case it IS God's Will for its mother to die.

There is a higher will which overrides your finite mind's will.

It's really simple: Whatever happens is God's Will by tautology. So if your mother gets cancer, that is God's Will. And if she dies from it, that is God's Will. And if she happens to survive it, that is God's Will.

Whatever you do, you cannot shake free from God's Will. Because God's Will is Absolute Truth/Reality.

The reason God can't save its mother (not always the case) is because the highest Love is to let her die. You have to notice how your personal biases skew your view of the situation. You are assuming that her living is the higher option. But this is not a safe assumption, this is your bias.

[Akash M]

18 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

The reason God can't save its mother (not always the case) is because the highest Love is to let her die.

Does this limit make God's Free Will deterministic?

So you're saying God who can see Infinite moves ahead and compute the highest Love:
1) Can determine the exact flow of reality.
2) But can't change the determined flow?

[Leo Gura]

52 minutes ago, Akash M said:

Does this limit make God's Free Will deterministic?

So you're saying God who can see Infinite moves ahead and compute the highest Love:
1) Can determine the exact flow of reality.
2) But can't change the determined flow?

It doesn't need to change the flow of anything because it has already selected the absolute highest Good.

What you see is the highest Good. The only trouble is recognizing it as such.

This is not a limit upon God. God is Perfection.

Your consciousness is the limit.

[Akash M]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

What you see is the highest Good. The only trouble is recognizing it as such.

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[Shin]

15 minutes ago, Akash M said:

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You're like a molecule who thinks other molecules around it are super important, when the whole universe is moving into one direction that requires your death.

Such arrogance

Edited October 11, 2021 by Shin

[Leo Gura]

7 minutes ago, Shin said:

You're like a molecule who thinks other molecules around it are super important, when the whole universe is moving into one direction that requires your death.

Lol

Exactly!

[Nahm]

Infinite Being. And also it’s mom. 

[Akash M]

On 11/10/2021 at 0:01 PM, Leo Gura said:

There is a higher will which overrides your finite mind's will.

What do you think about techniques like the law of attraction to manifest using finite will?

For example, if someone gets cancer, which of the below options make more sense?

1. Scientific: Research cancer and find a cure using finite intelligence
2. Law of Attraction: Apply techniques like intention and visualization to cure using finite will

Recognizing the highest Good sounds like the best option but in terms of actionable options, which of the above two options make more sense from your perspective?

Edited October 13, 2021 by Akash M

[axiom]

1. By all means you might do this, but it would not be a choice. God's will supersedes notions of human free will. Something that does not really exist cannot have its own will.

2. Law of attraction: What's really going on here is heightened awareness, not some manipulation of outcomes at the human level. You might think "you" are doing something, but you are merely witnessing. 

[Akash M]

13 hours ago, AMTO said:

However, you also claim we imagine our “lives” on the spot. Which means there’s no past, no experience, no other, etc etc. In which case there’s no “cause” at all. She just imagined a bad diet and her cancer on the spot…

@AMTO Beautifully put. I want to add a few thoughts to this.

If God imagines everything right now, that should include the cause (ate bad food in the past) and also the effect (has cancer now). Can't God imagine a different cause and effect?

If time is imaginary, if past & future are imagined in the present moment, then causality (which hinges on the notion of time) limiting God's imagination doesn't make much sense. Can't God simply imagine a different past in the present moment?

If God is everything and there is no other or outside to limit it, any limit that God has (even causality) must be self-imposed and imaginary. Can you imagine the possibility of a higher degree of God awakening where God stops imagining every single limit?

@Leo Gura Any thoughts?

Edited October 14, 2021 by Akash M

[Akash M]

@Leo Gura @axiom Thanks for clarifying. I rewatched the free will episode, and it makes a lot more sense now. However, I still have one little question:

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God's Will goes for the manifestation of the highest Love

This makes sense except for the word highest. How does God's absolute and unbiased point of view know what the highest (relative term. requires comparison) Love is?

To explain this question better, let me take a simple example. Let's say a crazy terrorist who wants to wipe out humanity got hit by a car and is on a hospital bed. There are two outcomes:
A) He survives, and humans go extinct
B) He dies, and humans survive

Let's see which outcome is better (or higher Love):
Human's relative and biased point of view: Of course, humans think outcome B is better as we are biased towards the survival of our species and our self (lowercase)
God's absolute and unbiased point of view: As God's Love is on the meta-level of perception itself and is not biased towards any specific forms in it (like humans, planet earth, etc.), how can God know which outcome is better? To know which outcome is better, it is required to compare and decide that one option is better than the other. From God's absolute and unbiased point of view, isn't every outcome equally absolute Love? How does God know which outcome is the highest Love?