How to reach deepest state of consciousness without psychedelic?

[Dodo]

Try fasting, praying, running, no sleeping..  Activate your own dmt juice within., But it might not always be pleasant as the devil can also take you for a ride. Beware and discern 

[James123]

13 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Maybe my ego can't accept be nothing, of course, but there is something!

No there is not. This ego,  so called mind. Accepting what you are is the biggest challenge for ego. Because after that letting go happens and ego can not do that. 

 

13 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

And yes, it's liberating, relaxing, resting in the present at the end. But same time it's like sad. The void where there is no where or when, no shape, no energy. Always the same moment, the zero moment. What a party. But same time, there is a big party. The universe is. Impossible to understand that duality right now

You have no idea how heavy is the ego, living with ego it is a hell. You think you are alive and happy with ego, fuck that. Freedom is biggest pleasure, because it is what You are. You are running around with mask and can never show real self, thats the price of the ego, and suffering, breaking down is inevitable. You think you are alive with ego, No. you are suffering, holding, trying to protect and trying to not to lose anything. 

[The0Self]

3 minutes ago, James123 said:

No there is not. This ego,  so called mind. Accepting what you are is the biggest challenge for ego. Because after that letting go happens and ego can not do that. 

 

You have no idea how heavy is the ego, living with ego it is a hell. You think you are alive and happy with ego, fuck that. Freedom is biggest pleasure, because it is what You are. You are running around with mask and can never show real self, thats the price of the ego, and suffering, breaking down is inevitable. You think you are alive with ego, No. you are suffering, holding, trying to protect and trying to not to lose anything. 

There is only infinite whole complete. When no one left there’s no one for things to actually happen to. It’s already natural. This is what is looked for.

[Breakingthewall]

8 minutes ago, James123 said:

You have no idea how heavy is the ego, living with ego it is a hell

Yeah , the ego is a trap. escaping from the trap is critical. The difficult thing about it is that outside of the trap there is nothing. adaptation time is needed

[James123]

9 minutes ago, The0Self said:

There is only infinite whole complete. When no one left there’s no one for things to actually happen to. It’s already natural. This is what is looked for.

What is infinite?

[James123]

5 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Yeah , the ego is a trap. escaping from the trap is critical. The difficult thing about it is that outside of the trap there is nothing. adaptation time is needed

Thats ok. Just dont refuse. 

[The0Self]

7 minutes ago, James123 said:

What is infinite?

No one needs to know — there is no one to know because there’s no separation. It’s just obvious this is everything.

[James123]

50 minutes ago, The0Self said:

No one needs to know — there is no one to know because there’s no separation. It’s just obvious this is everything.

So there is no infinite or everything. 

[The0Self]

11 minutes ago, James123 said:

So there is no infinite or everything. 

Lol. Not as some “thing” that happens, no ?