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Psychedelics and schizophrenia

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No one just goes ill, in fact, no one is ill. 

Some have suffered from such abuse at a young age the person gets stuck in defense thinking.

Aside from that, the biggest danger is becoming unstable, egoicly too hyped and distorted to be able to function after a big awakening, with no guidance or community to fall back on. Then going off about to others who label you as crazy, which may hurt your life further.

Best to have some stability, self supported life and relationship with god before to be safest.

And if you need help, seek some spiritual or christian community, don't just accept the idea your ill, and possibly suffer the stigma, that can be a danger in and of itself, and most psychologists are materialistically biased, deluded, even angry therefor and also have an institution, job and status they want to protect as well. They are not so safe.

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4 hours ago, meow_meow said:

To be honest - my gut instinct sais no, but I assume it could be related to how I was raised (mentality - Drugs, alcohol = bad).
 

I understand that neither those studies, neither this forum can be held as a valid resource.
It will still be my own choice to take them or not, and my own responsibility if I fuck up.

Anyway, thanks everyone who responded and expressed their opinion on this. 

Another thing you could do is go to a forum with people diagnosed with schizophrenia (and others who are interested in the topic) 

At the same website Serotoninluv mentioned, schizophrenia.com  a search int their forum reveals a huge number of posts discussing 


LSD
https://forum.schizophrenia.com/search?q=LSD

DMT
https://forum.schizophrenia.com/search?q= DMT

PSYCHEDELICS
https://forum.schizophrenia.com/t/no-link-found-between-psychedelics-and-psychosis/19653

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Here's an article by evil scientific materialists and mentions other articles 

https://www.nature.com/news/no-link-found-between-psychedelics-and-psychosis-1.16968

No link found between psychedelics and psychosis

In large US survey, users of LSD and similar drugs were no more likely to have mental-health conditions than other respondents.

Zoe Cormier
26 May 2015

In the first study, clinical psychologists Pål-Ørjan Johansen of EmmaSofia, a non-profit advocacy group based in Oslo, and Teri Suzanne Krebs of the Norwegian University of Science and Technology in Trondheim, scoured data from the US National Survey on Drug Use and Health (NSDUH), an annual random sample of the general population, and analysed answers from more than 135,000 people who took part in surveys from 2008 to 2011.

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articles discussed in the above article, here's one

Psychedelics not linked to mental health problems or suicidal behavior: A population study

Pål-Ørjan Johansen, Teri Suzanne Krebs

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0269881114568039

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VICE
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/nzegbz/this-couple-is-raising-1-million-to-fund-medical-grade-mdma-and-mushrooms

This Couple Is Raising $1 Million to Fund Medical-Grade MDMA and Mushrooms
Norwegian researchers are crowdfunding psychedelics for use in therapy.

In 2002, Pål-Ørjan Johansen, then a depressed psychology student at the Norwegian University of Science and Technology, ate magic mushrooms for the first time.

It was his first encounter with psychedelics, and according to him, it saved his life.

"It was an experience of biblical dimensions," said Johansen, now a clinical psychologist based in Oslo, Norway. The shrooms—also known as psilocybin—helped him confront his painful past in a way that no other experience had, psychotherapy included, he said.

Today Johansen and his wife, neuroscientist Teri Krebs, are prominent psychedelics researchers and advocates. They believe drugs such as psychedelics and MDMA (ecstasy) have the potential to heal and transform people's lives for the better. Now, they're working to expand access to quality-controlled psilocybin and MDMA around the world.

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So these are researchers are associates, including a husband and wife and they are  advocates.  I would take that into consideration. They might be right or they might be biased and right about some things and not right about others.
And as we know they are also scientists, aka evil materialists

Of course each psychedelic is not the same.  They may have very different chemistry from one another, different effects and generalized statements may not be so useful. 
So I would read all of this stuff, the articles and the forum posts. 
The smart thing to do, in my opinion is get a variety of opinions and accounts. 

I think everyone would agree with some of these chemicals you can have a wonderful an awesome experience and you can also have a stressful scary one.     And experienced users will tell you that one can have many nice experiences with particular chemical and then even with experienced use a scary one could occur without warning.  Others may report no such scary trip. 
Many experienced users advocate using a trip sitter especially for people new to a particular chemical. 

 

 
 

 

 

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