No-self to God-Self

[zeroISinfinity]

Just now, Preetom said:

"Just be/remain you" is synonymous with "stop defining yourself".

And yes, there is no effort being oneself. Effort is only required to be something alien or other 

Well this entire life is your escape from who you really are. Level of our own ignorance is Infinite. 

[zeroISinfinity]

1 minute ago, Soul-lover 2020 said:

Nahm,

I'm not you, you are not me, otherwise we would agree. 

Andrea

He is you! All the satanists are you! I am you this forum is you ?❤️ You can be only aware of yourself. Silly Silly Silly. 

[Preetom]

12 hours ago, Soul-lover 2020 said:

Nahm,

I'm not you, you are not me, otherwise we would agree. 

Andrea

Finally someone said it! Thank you.

This whole notion of i am you and you are me is having ass backwards of this whole thing. This statement contains a huge epistemic error.

In exodus god said to Moses "i am that i am".

"I am" is another name of God. Infact "I am" IS god.

God didn't say " my name is i am. But you can also call me you are, he is or they are".

That would be a deluded God if that was the case 

Edited May 3, 2019 by Preetom

[Nahm]

3 minutes ago, Soul-lover 2020 said:

Nahm,

I'm not you, you are not me, otherwise we would agree. 

Andrea

Uh oh.

I wish you the best. ♥️

 

 

[Soul-lover 2020]

Hey, guys, I'm enjoying this.  Good vibrations....

[jbram2002]

11 minutes ago, Soul-lover 2020 said:

Nahm,

I'm not you, you are not me, otherwise we would agree. 

Andrea

I don't know about you, but I disagree with myself all the time.

[Forestluv]

1 minute ago, Soul-lover 2020 said:

I'm enjoying this.  Good vibrations....

That’s what she said. . . ?

[zeroISinfinity]

Just now, Serotoninluv said:

That’s what she said. . . ?

????

She is Catholic These types of jokes are not allowed. 

[Soul-lover 2020]

4 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

Andrea,

Seems like the truth does not agree with your beliefs.

 

According to you and your fellows.  I disagree.

[Jkris]

@Soul-lover 2020 May be after realising what God is I will read Bible to understand what it says.For me now any reading is just a distraction.

Regarding Hinduism - Hinduism embraces everything.It doesn't say you should accept God or you should accept what scriptures say with absolute Faith.Not question it.

It gives full freedom.Live and let live.Let all living beings be happy.

1. Scriptures encourage to question everything including the scriptures and to have a direct realization .Same was said by Buddha.

It doesn't say you are doomed and will go to hell and suffer for eternity if you don't believe God or scriptures.

It accepts atheists.It accepts Advaitha.It accepts duality or dwaitha.

Hindus see God is in everything both form and formless hence Hindus worship everything sun moon planets trees animals have personal diety. Rain,earth,Fire,sky,air everything is worshiped.

Advaitha God alone is.

Dwaitha - All that is present with in God is not God.

But God is in eveything.

It doesn't say devotion alone is the path.It says Path of knowledge or enquiry,Path of Devotion or Bhakthi or surrender,path of Yoga - meditation,and path of action - selfless service for realizing God.

Regarding dualists or devotees there is a famous quote by Saints a devotee want to taste sugar(God) but an Advaithin wants to become the sugar and how can he/she taste the love for God.

And Bhuddism or Buddha didn't speak about God.His approach was ending the suffering of human kind.

 

 

[zeroISinfinity]

Just now, Soul-lover 2020 said:

According to you and your fellows.  I disagree.

Did you look yourself at the mirror. You saw your own reflection right? Hope you realized that entire universe is reflection including that body. Ponder this. 

[jbram2002]

2 minutes ago, Soul-lover 2020 said:

According to you and your fellows.  I disagree.

I don't know most of these guys. But I do know that we all have different definitions of the truth, even in this forum. Who's to say whose version is correct?

[Preetom]

23 minutes ago, zeroISinfinity said:

Well this entire life is your escape from who you really are. Level of our own ignorance is Infinite. 

There is profound truth to this statement. Conventional 'life' as we know it is 100% ignorance and delusion.

Yet the paradox is when one wakes up, it is realized there was no veiling in the first place. Such a sick joke ?

13 minutes ago, jbram2002 said:

I don't know about you, but I disagree with myself all the time.

be Echart tolle and wonder at the middle of the night "wait a minute. How many me are there? Am i one or many?" While listening to the distant passing train. Then sleep while being sucked into a vortex without resisting.

Next morning, wake up enlightened as fuck. Seeing oneness in everything and wandering in the streets.

Then spend 2 years in a park bench in bliss while occasionally people poking you about the secret of your happiness. 

Then write a bestseller book regarding power of now and all that good shit, make millions and spend the rest of your life in affluence while living the game of a successful guru in the satsang circuits 

Edited May 2, 2019 by Preetom

[Soul-lover 2020]

8 minutes ago, Jkris said:

@Soul-lover 2020 May be after realising what God is I will read Bible to understand what it says.For me now any reading is just a distraction.

Regarding Hinduism - Hinduism embraces everything.It doesn't say you should accept God or you should accept what scriptures say with absolute Faith.Not question it.

It gives full freedom.Live and let live.Let all living beings be happy.

1. Scriptures encourage to question everything including the scriptures and to have a direct realization .Same was said by Buddha.

It doesn't say you are doomed and will go to hell and suffer for eternity if you don't believe God or scriptures.

It accepts atheists.It accepts Advaitha.It accepts duality or dwaitha.

Hindus see God is in everything both form and formless hence Hindus worship everything sun moon planets trees animals have personal diety. Rain,earth,Fire,sky,air everything is worshiped.

Advaitha God alone is.

Dwaitha - All that is present with in God is not God.

But God is in eveything.

It doesn't say devotion alone is the path.It says Path of knowledge or enquiry,Path of Devotion or Bhakthi or surrender,path of Yoga - meditation,and path of action - selfless service for realizing God.

Regarding dualists or devotees there is a famous quote by Saints a devotee want to taste sugar(God) but an Advaithin wants to become the sugar and how can he/she taste the love for God.

And Bhuddism or Buddha didn't speak about God.His approach was ending the suffering of human kind.

 

 

Points accepted.

[Jkris]

@jbram2002 ???

[zeroISinfinity]

You can do another experiment. "Your face". Can you see your face without mirrors.what is your face in actuality? Right now right here what is your face?

God I love apocalypse ❤️

Edited May 2, 2019 by zeroISinfinity

[Preetom]

20 minutes ago, zeroISinfinity said:

You can do another experiment. "Your face". Can you see your face without mirrors.what is your face in actuality? Right now right here what is your face?

God I love apocalypse ❤️

Omg reading this reminded me of a funny story from scriptures lol.

A greatly devoted man prayed to God for many years. But as he was getting old, he was getting more frustrated and sad because he never had any vision of God in spite of praying so much.

So one night he prayed really hard and begged to have a vision of God before he dies. That night he hears a voice in the dream " look for the headless man. Once you find him, you'll find god"

So next day that man frantically searches everywhere in the streets. But alas! Every man has a head. After a whole day of frantic search he sits by the river disheartened. Everyone heading for home after evening,  while the man sits alone. 

Then all of a sudden the direct realization dawns on him that everyone has a head...Expect for him! He is the headless man! He is the God he was searching all along.

And thus the headless man got enlightened. So as the story goes 

 

Edited May 2, 2019 by Preetom

[zeroISinfinity]

Just now, Preetom said:

Omg reading this reminded me a funny story from scriptures lol.

A greatly devoted man prayed to God for many years. But as he was getting old, he was getting more frustrated and sad because he never had any vision of God in spite of praying so much.

So one night he prayed really hard to begged to have a vision of God before he dies. That night he hears a voice in the dream " look for the headless man. Once you find him, you'll find god"

So next day that man frantically searches everywhere in the streets. But alas! Every man has a head. After a whole day of frantic search he sits by the river disheartened. Everyone heading for home after evening,  while the man sits alone. 

Then all of a sudden the direct realization dawns on him that everyone has a head...Expect for him! He is the headless man! He is the God he was searching all along.

And thus the headless man got enlightened. So as the story goes 

 

?❤️?

[Nahm]

@Preetom Awesome. ??

[Soul-lover 2020]

15 minutes ago, zeroISinfinity said:

You can do another experiment. "Your face". Can you see your face without mirrors.what is your face in actuality? Right now right here what is your face?

God I love apocalypse ❤️

My face is the canvas for my emotions, happy, sad and many others besides.