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How do I know if anyone else is conscious?

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Perhaps time moves through Me, I do not move through it. 

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Just now, Mikael89 said:

Do you mean that there is no doer when there is only Consciousness?

Ohh how can we use the unreal(words) to explain the real?

2 minutes ago, Mikael89 said:

So nothing really happens?

Sort of. What happens during deep sleep?

6 minutes ago, Mikael89 said:

I'm inclined to agree. That means humans do have a some kind of Consciousness?

See it like this.

1) You squeeze a rubber ball and release it. The ball reverts back to it's original shape by it's own reflex. Do you associate an individual Consciousness in that ball for this reaction?

2) You press a button on computer and certain program runs. Do you associate an individual Consciousness in the computer?

3) You kick a man in his nuts and he screams in pain as a reaction. What's your logic of associating an individual Consciousness to that man?


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PLEASE...Not this...''

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Just now, Mikael89 said:

So sawing the legs off a human and off a table is equally ok?

Maybe the most evil serial murderers and torturers are enlightened then?

what does "ok" mean to you? you seem to be confused because you have a mentally biased belief about enlightenment.

and no. enlightened beings are compassionate about the pain and suffering of others.


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6 minutes ago, Mikael89 said:

 So I'm (the ego is) just a program/machine.

Any fragmentation/duality aka objective knowledge is dumb dead machine.

It all just appears to be, but really non-existent.

It all just appears to be alive and conscious, but really none of those things.

Btw your statement reminds me of Ouspensky and Gurdjieff's teachings on how humans are machines that don't know that they are machines 9_9

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15 hours ago, TheAvatarState said:

@Leo Gura No, that's the thing... All the signs are pointing to there NOT being other (in a weird way), and my ego is going, "What the fuck???" 

I understand that I am everyone else, and the level of connectedness I feel with the world is so great that it seems like the world changes around me to fit my tastes in seemingly impossible ways. Synchronicities through the roof. It's to the point where it feels like it's LITERALLY only me and I'm in some type of simulation.

Does any of this make sense? I've had a few awakening experiences but I still don't quite understand this yet. Maybe I'm already there, it's just that my ego can't wrap its head around it...

When you realize that self/other is a duality, and it collapses, then what remains is unity. So yes, you are all alone at that point. You are the only being in the entire universe. Being God can be lonely ;) Hence you invent "others".

Ego cannot wrap its head around this. Ego must go -- then things will become clear.


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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@Leo Gura ok, thank you.


"The greatest illusion of all is the illusion of separation." - Guru Pathik

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