Leo Comes In My Dreams :(

[Son of leo]

I have been facing this problem since quite a long now. Leo is appearing in my dreams daily now. What do i do???

[Emerald]

23 minutes ago, Abhijeet Singh said:

I have been facing this problem since quite a long now. Leo is appearing in my dreams daily now. What do i do???

Just accept it. You don't control dreams. The subconscious mind does. But I had a dream about Leo once, but he wasn't actually in it. It was really bad. This old couple who owned a diner on an old country road were talking about him, and saying that he just got news that he only had a few days to live. I was really bummed.

[Guest]

Leo is probably trying out the power realm now, his spirit body visits you at night in your sleep lol. Soon he will make a video about out of body experiences and astral traveling where he claims to haunt someone in their dreams.

[Guest]

@Abhijeet Singh This is serious.  It could mean you are open to cult brainwashing going on here.  Go see a psychiatrist is my advice.

[Guest]

http://michaelbluejay.com/x/how-cults-recruit.html

You are being brainwashed by a satanic pagan cult who believe in spiritual enlightenment.

These are the strategic methods used by cult groups.

Breaking down of the sense of self and building it back up with faulty beliefs.

Its all here.

[Guest]

@Emerald Wilkins This is not intentionally a cult.  But the latest video about the suspense of rationality is the final cherry on the cake for me.

This guy picked up his first self help book in 2007.  You dont go from being the buthole of society to Integral cognition guru in less than 10 years.  

Especially as most of his videos have been about NLP brainwashing techniques to get materialistic needs met quickly.  It's only really the last year that the spiritual enlightenment stuff has come about.

Its easy to hold beliefs about these subjects, it's another to have embodied them. It takes YEARS.

Cults are not only about hero worshipping (although there is a lot of that happening here) and getting people to adopt one system of thinking.  Spiritual enlightenment is a good enough carrot to dangle to manintain a pro-profit website and lifestyle.  

[Guest]

@Emerald Wilkins You got no invitation yet? Well we are all here, in our secret hideout brainwashing and recruiting new people for our own selfish cause, while Leo collects our cash and our souls. Wait I'll send you an invitation. Cult-Lord Leo must have forgotten. #wearethenextilluminati

[Guest]

9 minutes ago, Rasmus said:

@Emerald Wilkins You got no invitation yet? Well we are all here, in our secret hideout brainwashing and recruiting new people for our own selfish cause, while Leo collects our cash and our souls. Wait I'll send you an invitation. Cult-Lord Leo must have forgotten. #wearethenextilluminati

That's a bit of a simpletons view of what cults are.

Cults can be very sophisticated these days.  Especially if you know what all the signs of a cult are and take measures to avoid them.  Doesnt mean its not a cult.

Anything that takes people away from the mainstream too much is a cult.

 

 

Edited March 23, 2016 by Nomad

[Natasha]

@Nomad What are the signs of a cult that are present in Actualized.org? I agree that Leo's approach is radical, but call it a cult? Cult members are brainwashed into becoming psychologically DEPENDENT on the leader/ cult system. What Leo encourages us to do here is to be INDEPENDENT thinkers. I doubt many on here would follow him to become yogis, but many will go out to realize their potential and help make this world a more conscious place to be.    

[Guest]

@Natasha

Hero worshipping

Dependence on ideas

Dependence on ideas from the members

The members giving ideas to the dependent ones (encouraging dependency)

Leo making videos "in response" to viewers requests. (encouraging dependency)

Suggestions on throwing out critical debate and taking the ideas on board without question - and then contemplating life via these "unquestioable" concepts.

Like I said before, once you buy into an idea like enlightenment, then thats what you see.  A society split into a dichotomy of unenightened beings vs enlightened beings.  Which is not actually the case.

Which is why I like the Integral model, because it includes all the previous aspects of the spiral and integrates them.

All this is here is rejecting the spiral and creating a massive dichotomy that doesn't actually exist in reality.

 

[Natasha]

@Nomad I do integrate also. Which resources/ teachers do you listen to? I like to listen to Ken Wilber.

 

 

[Guest]

@Natasha I personally believe you don't understand Integral.  You need to be able to hold more than one perspective in your mind at the same time.  For you and the people on here this is impossible.  

However, anybody can read it and parrot back its concepts.

 

[Guest]

@Emerald Wilkins You would disagree.  Youre a memeber of it.

[Saarah]

Well he does have a video on critical thinking, he doesn't want you to just accept it all straight away

[Natasha]

@Nomad I learn as I go, one step at a time

What integral teachers/ material do you advice for me and others on here? Why don't you start a thread, so we all can learn?

 

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, Emerald Wilkins said:

It's easy to come back with this short punchy answer. Support your view with an actual argument, grounded in rationality, if you want me to take it seriously or consider your viewpoint. Understand, I mean you no ill will nor am I simply trying to protect Leo from attack. I have an issue with your viewpoint, and I would like you to address it.

I dont care if you take me seriously.  

Why would I care.  I posted my views on what I think this is.

Why is Leo being attacked?

This is a cult as all religions are developed into cults.  This is the religion of non religion.  Its not his fault, its not the peoples fault.  People can read the material and enjoy it, it might inform them.

But in my opinion this is a cult.  Especially now youre defending your leader.  That's werid

[Guest]

Im being serial stalked by steven now.  This is so a cult

[Steven]

54 minutes ago, Natasha said:

@Nomad What are the signs of a cult that are present in Actualized.org? I agree that Leo's approach is radical, but call it a cult? Cult members are brainwashed into becoming psychologically DEPENDENT on the leader/ cult system. What Leo encourages us to do here is to be INDEPENDENT thinkers. I doubt many on here would follow him to become yogis, but many will go out to realize their potential and help make this world a more conscious place to be.    

Great answer

2 hours ago, Abhijeet Singh said:

Leo is appearing in my dreams daily now. What do i do???

This usually means your are spending way too much time watching his vids lol... If you play video games all day every day for extended period of time, the same will happen... Except that his videos include his face and voice which is 100x more powerful than playing games...

Take a break.... do something else....

 

Edited March 23, 2016 by Steven

[Natasha]

2 minutes ago, Nomad said:

Im being serial stalked by steven now.  This is so a cult

No, you're just being paranoid 

[Guest]

Look at my reputation.  The last like ten thumbs down are steven.  He did this before. @Natasha