Does Anyone Feel This Energy Frequently As Well?

[Preetom]

Hello, I'm actually a very beginner practitioner  in consciousness work. I've been goofing around with all these teachings & stuff and applying some of these lessons here and there not that consistently over 2-3 years. I've had some random spiritual/psychological highs here and there. But that's it. Nothing really shifted the trajectory of my life radically. Still got tons of gross and subtle addictions to work through. Just reflecting back, I find the quality of my life deteriorating as years are going by when the opposite should be the case. Because age is supposed to bring strength, intelligent and maturity right? lol. That's how beginner I am.

Now with that said, whenever I just stop and be mindful, nothing fancy, just get intimate with 'that' which is awake or ask "who is aware/who is searching/To whom does it arise? " and just stay still for a few seconds, an energy surge spikes straight up the head from my back. This is not a subtle/loving sensation but pretty rough and quick energy jerk. Sort of like a quick goosebump. And the odd thing is, it even happens dozens of time a day. The more I remind myself to self inquire, the more times this happen.

Right now, I'm trying to make a 24/7 habit of very relaxed and deep breathing and getting intimate with the 'feel' of my body. Sort of like a constant, subtle flow state going on 24/7 no matter what I am doing. For that, I expect myself to be grounded. But everytime I slow down and try to do it,  that energy spike burst up and distracts me.  (It's like when a cat gets suddenly scared and jumps in shock)

My question is, is this condition normal? Is it something everyone needs to go through when they are targeting for a fully mindful life 24/7? I'm asking this because I've read many spiritual books but never came across exactly this issue. Or it is all just a hormonal thing and I'm making a big fuss about it? please reply  

PS: Please don't give me a bunch of info dump on enlightenment. I would like to hear from someone who had these experiences personally. People who have actually grounded themselves and shifted their entire value and life trajectory. Don't feed me with some second hand knowledge unless it's your own experience. I know some pet theories on kundalini awakening. I doubt my case is relevant to that. if it is kundalini, that means I get enlightened 20 times a day? O_o Holy shit!

Edited September 10, 2017 by Preetom

[Martin123]

@Preetom does the energy have a kind of orgasmic quality to it?

[Preetom]

@Martin123 YES!! Most of them are even powerful than when I fap

Edited September 10, 2017 by Preetom

[Martin123]

@Preetom sounds like kundalini indeed.

Dont be mistaken active kundalini doesnt mean instant enlightenment.

What kundalini does is that it deconstructs one's stuck nervous system, that creates an egoic perception of reality. This can take years (and will).

 

Treat it with respect and love, be kind to yourself, I recommend Matt Kahn, all of his stuff is brilliant for a person with awakened kundalini.

Some breathwork is useful at times, but only at certain phases. You must go with what resonates.

Be ready to take a bunch of naps, go on eating streaks and insomnia.

All of your cellular memory that stores trauma will surface eventually. This is no joke, it is hell! It is the dark night of the soul. And I cannot emohasize this more. Be kind to yourself my dearest friend.

 

I wish you courage on your journey of transformation. And know that any kind of discomfort is only here to remind you how strong you are, by showing you what youre capable of surviving.

Feel free to educate yourself on kundalini, beware of a lot of nonsense. Apply only relevant stuff that works well with your direct experience.

Much love, and welcome on your journey home :).

May you be blessed with good fortune.

[Martin123]

@Preetom The person who started this topic made some very solid points about kundalini as well. 

ignore all the advaita petty fights there, there is some good info.

Another 2 people who educate about kundalini are Jan Esman (hope I spelled it right) and Rali -naked reality (only in the past months or so though, when his kundalini awakened.)

 

Another thing worth mentioning is usually kundalini is activated After self-realization occurs. Your (and my case) is truly rather unusual, but it does happen.

[Arkandeus]

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I doubt my case is relevant to that. if it is kundalini, that means I get enlightened 20 times a day? O_o Holy shit!

if your joy is telling you this then that is true.

but enlightenment is such an immense process, always expect more, you will advance and accelerate, imagine how more intenser the energy spikes can become

[Preetom]

@Martin123 Thanks a lot for your sincere help brother! I've been following your content for some months now. Some breathing techniques mentioned in your emotional healing guide greatly helped with my social anxiety. I'll definitely look into every single thing you've mentioned. I've also watched the interview of Rali and Jan. The way Jan keeps his cool over hours is just jaw dropping. 
While watching Jan, I immediately wished if I could have that level of groundedness and freedom <3 

[Preetom]

13 minutes ago, Arkandeus said:

 imagine how more intenser the energy spikes can become

@Arkandeus  Yeah that's exactly what I get scared of sometimes. In the back of my head, I'm like "if this keeps on happening every single hour, it must be creating some sort of lethal damage to my body".
I never imagined such a subtle thing like truth/enlightenment which I thought of as inner/mental, could also have such a strong physical response.

Edited September 10, 2017 by Preetom

[Martin123]

5 minutes ago, Preetom said:

@Arkandeus  Yeah that's exactly what I get scared of sometimes. In the back of my head, I'm like "if this keeps on happening every single hour, it must be creating some sort of lethal damage to my body".
I never imagined such a subtle thing like truth/enlightenment which I thought of as inner/mental, could also have such a strong physical response.

Yea. It is a path towards full embodiment of God-consciousness. Dont worry no damage, only healing. That being said, some people have a lot of issues with kundalini, as it busts through energetic blocks, that is why it is important to honour your body to the best of your ability. Do not force yourself into situations/habbits.

 

As for the experience itself, sometimes it can get overwhelming, but oh the bliss when kundalini integrates and achieves completion (I only glimpsed that).

It is totally worth any kind of trouble you go through.

 

Another thing I can add only from my personal experience (meaning feel free to experiment yourself) is that eventhough psychadelics can give insights and accelerate your process, since it is generally kind of violent procedure for the body, it most likely will not speed-up the integration process.

In some cases psychadelics can activate kundalini, but once active, your life is one giant trip lol.

[Arkandeus]

15 hours ago, Preetom said:

@Arkandeus  Yeah that's exactly what I get scared of sometimes. In the back of my head, I'm like "if this keeps on happening every single hour, it must be creating some sort of lethal damage to my body".
I never imagined such a subtle thing like truth/enlightenment which I thought of as inner/mental, could also have such a strong physical response.

oh no, do not worry, do not be afraid of your own energy, your can be vastly more powerful and energized, accept that you're afraid but do not believe the fear, this is natural energy, it is yours.
there is not a single ounce of this that will hurt you, this is your native energy
 

[Franz]

Hi there! I know the energy you are talking about since I was like 13 years old. I may willingly acivate those spikes by flexing my pelvic floor muscle in a certain way. Back then, I just liked the feeling of it, and never thought of it as a big deal. 

As practice, you may try to activate this energy on purpose and channel the energy for a couple of seconds.You can do this while meditating. After a while, you may redirect your whole bodies energy towards your head and achieve a mini "brain-orgasm"  . This includes your head feeling like it will explode and seeing "the light", a blissful experience, very relaxing and spiritually activating. I am not a theory guy, so who knows if it is "kundalini" energy. And no, it wont make you self-realized or enlightened, the effects (if there are any) are too subtle. I would still say it generally put me on the path of seeking in the long run.

much love man, keep your head up 

[Preetom]

@Franz Thanks a lot! I won't get scared and confused with this energy anymore. Will keep doing the work. Lets see how things turn out.

[cetus]

@Preetom @Martin123 @Franz just to throw this out there, I've never experienced this energy. I'm not dismissing it, I'm just wondering why that is. Any clues? I can't say I've ever really tried to access it either. Could that be it? I hear about blockages often but I try to be totally open to whatever arises. Wouldn't it have come on it's own at some point? Or not necessarily? Any suggestions? I'll give it a try.

[cetus]

@Arkandeus Sorry, I didn't include your name. Same question to you too. 

[Martin123]

1 hour ago, cetus56 said:

@Preetom @Martin123 @Franz just to throw this out there, I've never experienced this energy. I'm not dismissing it, I'm just wondering why that is. Any clues? I can't say I've ever really tried to access it either. Could that be it? I hear about blockages often but I try to be totally open to whatever arises. Wouldn't it have come on it's own at some point? Or not necessarily? Any suggestions? I'll give it a try.

It seems to me that there is no sure fireway to activate your kundalini permanently, to me it happened completely spontaneously (I had 0 clue about spirituality at the time, I just sat down in a meditation and it happened).

Also what @Franz is describing seems like a "kundalini happening" not really awakening.

Kundalini happening - 1 time thing, or even several times, isn't that bug of a deal, it's rather insinificant. 

Full blown kundalini activation is very apparent CONSTANT kundalini movement throughout the day, I thought it might be case in @Preetom's case since he said it happens many times a day. Only he can know for certain anywho.

 

If you have a genuine desire for kundalini, research it and find a master who can give shaktipat. Jan essman does it over yt even.

 

Shaktipath is energy transmission thats supposed to awaken kundalini in receiver.

 

As far what kundalini is, the best way I would describe it is that kundalini is the animated consciousness within your body, that will heall the complete structure of your ego, once it awakens fully. It is shakti, the energy from creation, tht is one and the same with shiva. Once kundalini is awake, self-enquiry becomes a joke. Advaita is just funny words. All the former teachings are left in the dust, and what remains is love and bliss. Which is as well the practice that suits it the most. Love. (Love an devotion according to Jan Esman).

 

Have you read the topic I mentioned here earlier?

[cetus]

@Martin123 Thanks! I started to read it but got interrupted. Yea i'll check out the rest of it. I was wondering if Kundalinli may have healing effects. The spinal cord in particular. I have some problems in that area. Maybe it could help me with that. I'm willing to give it a shot.

[Martin123]

@cetus56 in my slightly educated opinion it sure can, it restructures your nervous system. Frank Holiday reported awful back-pain. I myself have has instances where it just gave me the "kundalini flu" as a body detox, usually a one day kind-of cold.

 

But the point of it is not healing. The point of is obliteration of all remaining ignorance from your system. 

Like... kundalini awakening is the real deal, when all patterns, not just regular purification, but ALL patterns start resurfacing... thats some hell for you much worse than any kind of back-pain.

[cetus]

1 hour ago, Martin123 said:

But the point of it is not healing. The point of is obliteration of all remaining ignorance from your system

@Martin123 I'll gladly take whatever it can do for me.

[Preetom]

@cetus56 I myself have no idea if it is kundalini or not. but here are some honest observations:
1) I woke up at 5:30 am today and now its 11:10 am in Bangladesh. In between this 6 hours, I felt this energy at least 10 times. While morning walk, it hit me 3-4 time consecutively.
2) This is NOT directly related to my sex drive. My penis is not erected while these energy bursts. It feels like an electric shock lasting 1-2 seconds. There maybe some subtle sensations spreading through the body after every hit.

3) I've been feeling them as far as I can remember. Maybe more than 10 years. But never really paid any attention to them. I talked with my friends about it. They said I'm just excited/horny. But my experience tells otherwise. I feel this current when I'm relaxed, conscious/mindful or get intimate with 'that' which is alive and feel it without putting any label on it.

4) I've been very confused and frustrated especially for the last 4-5 years. During this time, I made the biggest mistake which is escaping and suppressing all the uncomfortable facts and feelings of my life with bunch of addictions. I used to desensitize myself for days (lets say upto a week) with food, entertainment, porn etc the list goes on. During these unconscious but exciting periods I never got the energy hits. Not even once a day. But once I recommitted to start a clean life from scratch, the energy hits would start again.

 

And finally if you wanna learn and apply the genuine path of kundalini I recommend the book "Kundalini Tantra" by Satyananda Saraswati. This book contains all sorts of information and their implications. Lots of Kundalini yoga starting from cleansing and strengthening all the chakras and nadis of the body. A very well written guide from a legitimate master who observed tons of lay students in ashrams over decades.

The author claims that full kundalini awakening awakens the human brain to its completion. A brain having 10 parts each chakra, nadi and the type of awakening opens up certain part of the brain. He claims that full kundalini awakening changes the dna structures, the scent, skin etc of the body. A transformation literally made from inside out. He says kundalini awakening is the evolution of consciousness through human body and taking kundalini to the perfect state is basically the ultimate life purpose of coming into existence with a human body.     

[Martin123]

@Preetom the only thing I cannot comprehend is how you were able to suppress it. I can't imagine that at all. Then again perhaps if I hadn't practiced mindfulness id be in the same boat.

 

I know what you mean though that you felt it before. I used to feel kundalini as a kid, especially after emotional dreams.