Martin Ball says physical reality is real

[Leo Gura]

6 hours ago, Eskilon said:

Leo even said buddhism is not about god-realization lmao.

It should make you wonder why Buddhists deny God and have an allergy to God.

You can read an entire book explaining Buddhism and God is never mentioned.

Yes, I find that very suss.

[Rodrigo Costa]

@Inliytened1I wasn't defending anyone. I was asking questions.

I agree that our reality is a kind of dream. And I also think we can distinguish degrees of consistency between the "physical" reality and a dream.

But we can only make these discernments because we have feelings that allow us to do so.

What I am suggesting is that Reality (or God) can be described as a broad all-encompassing feeling.

This seems a better description to me than the term "consciousness".

 

 

 

[Leo Gura]

2 minutes ago, Rodrigo Costa said:

This seems a better description to me than the term "consciousness".

God is precisely Consciousness.

You cannot avoid Consciousness in this work. It's all Consciousness.

You are conscious right now and that's what God is. It can't get any more direct than that.

God is not a feeling, God is Consciousness.

Edited 2 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Inliytened1]

20 minutes ago, Rodrigo Costa said:

@Inliytened1I wasn't defending anyone. I was asking questions.

I agree that our reality is a kind of dream. And I also think we can distinguish degrees of consistency between the "physical" reality and a dream.

But we can only make these discernments because we have feelings that allow us to do so.

What I am suggesting is that Reality (or God) can be described as a broad all-encompassing feeling.

This seems a better description to me than the term "consciousness".

 

Well you're gonna weep. So you better have tissues. Leo calls it Love.  But to me it is God. And I shall weep.

[kavaris]

What do yous mean by "feelings allow us to do so"? Like every inception of a thing is predicated on something that felt it?

[Jodistrict]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

It should make you wonder why Buddhists deny God and have an allergy to God.

You can read an entire book explaining Buddhism and God is never mentioned.

Yes, I find that very suss.

As stated in the Four Noble Truths, the Buddha taught a method to end suffering, focusing like a laser beam on this single issue. He avoided unproductive discussions of metaphysics, a stance illustrated in the famous Parable of the Poisoned Arrow. In this story, the Buddha compared metaphysical speculation to a man shot by a poisoned arrow who refuses treatment until he knows the archer's name, caste, and village. Thus, the Buddha maintained that belief in a creator God is not necessary for liberation, offering instead a path emphasizing total personal responsibility to liberate oneself.

[Leo Gura]

5 minutes ago, Jodistrict said:

As stated in the Four Noble Truths, the Buddha taught a method to end suffering, focusing like a laser beam on this single issue. He avoided unproductive discussions of metaphysics, a stance illustrated in the famous Parable of the Poisoned Arrow.

And that is why I reject Buddhism.

Metaphysics is the only reason to do spirituality.

Edited 1 hour ago by Leo Gura

[Jodistrict]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

And that is why I reject Buddhism.

Metaphysics is the only reason to do spirituality.

For me the only reason is a path to direct experience.  

[Inliytened1]

17 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

And that is why I reject Buddhism.

Metaphysics is the only reason to do spirituality.

Yeah but Buddhism nailed no self.  So pick your battles.

Edited 1 hour ago by Inliytened1