What is the next level of our communication with Leo ?

[Joseph Maynor]

20 minutes ago, yetineti said:

The most dangerous thing to someone who manipulates the truth is when everyone else starts noticing the pattern.

 

Well then look in the mirror.

[yetineti]

The problem with gaslighters: they toy with individual’s specific realities and every level is another bargain with the devil.

The only way to maintain composure to a gaslighter is to already have it. Otherwise they will distort you until you don’t remember where you started.

I don’t expect my week timeout to do much for Joseph. I’m sure he’ll just play dumb. That’s why I blocked him.

I’m not going to deal with that bs or act like randomly gaslighting someone is cool.

At least the trolls and jokers are fun and have the excuse of impulsivity.

Gaslighting someone—randomly—on a forum is far more extreme than any level of defensiveness, trolling, being an ass, etc.

Edited yesterday at 01:30 AM by yetineti

[yetineti]

I will follow up with Joseph exactly one week after I originally said I would, in accordance with his own wishes.

We will see if he’s reflected at all. I’ve seen him do this to others.

We’ll see how he grapples with the pattern coming to fruition.

Edited yesterday at 01:33 AM by yetineti

[Natasha Tori Maru]

The last 2 pages here haven't really achieved much in terms of the OP.

No more derailing.

Edited yesterday at 01:36 AM by Natasha Tori Maru

[oOo]

@Someone here

Leo is well within his legal, personal and spiritual right to maintain as much distance as he pleases and or, is reasonable to do so.

Leo has already acknowledged that he is not perfect and like all of us here, are a work in progress.

This tone is not at all needed in your post.

There is room for improvement in the design of the system that makes up the forum as a whole, that subject I have critiqued on more than one occasion, that alone would address the health of the forum, the conversations within it and expectations around Leo's relationship to the forum.

@Leo Gura is a video creator and uploads his videos to a platform, in this case YouTube, that does not entitle you to his time purely because you take in his teachings and learn from him.

This is why Leo also has a course that you need to pay for.

The internet is a highly unstable environment to simply have unfiltered boundaries around direct contact where Leo feels implicitly obligated to attend zoom calls, etc. 

Inadequate boundaries, from emotional to spiritual to intellectual to in the forums case and obviously peoples main calling based on the patterns of the forum rather than its "casual" declaration, development boundaries, is precisely why I believe the redesign of the forum is where the focus should be.

Not in requiring that Leo compromise his boundaries in any shape or form without his consent.

Please reflect on this topic deeply before blindly diving into it, this topic requires a depth of self-awareness and foresight to justify its purpose for starting.

Dictating the boundaries of a person without respect rather than focusing on critiquing the design of an environments creative space, in this case the forum, which dictates the sophistication by which people can interact online, including more interactively like through zoom, etc, is not the self-awareness to lead with.

Best regards.

 

Edited 22 hours ago by oOo

[Joseph Maynor]

I do not know of any music shops in Vegas, sorry I missed that question.

[Joseph Maynor]

12 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I'm not sure what you are asking me or what you are trying to prove.  

@yetineti  I think this comment from me triggered the reaction.  I apologize.  

[Someone here]

On ١٨‏/١٠‏/٢٠٢٦ at 11:10 PM, Heaven said:

Unfortunately Nahm became delusional at one point.

You could say that, if that’s how you perceive it.  it’s difficult to truly know another person’s inner world, even through face-to-face communication, let alone through text messages.

Personally, I think he possesses exceptional clarity when it comes to the work of consciousness. that doesn’t necessarily mean he can offer sound advice on practical matters such as health, dating, or other aspects of everyday life. when he attempts to apply his ideas about enlightenment to the practical issues of ordinary life,At that point, it becomes clear that he is conflating consciousness work for guidance about  everyday situations. 
and again that’s my own personal opinion. He’s something from the past now . I wish we could have more people like him on the forum today . Because Leo doesn’t put that much effort on the forum despite posting actively for years because he intentionally posts casually and less formally  on the forum.

 

Edited 4 hours ago by Someone here

[Someone here]

On ١٨‏/١٠‏/٢٠٢٦ at 11:45 PM, Lyubov said:

 

What would you like to see different in the discussions here ?

I obviously don’t and can’t control what people say or talk about here , even Leo can’t , unless there is severe violation of the guidelines or something like that . 

I would like to see more maturity in the discussion. And the only way for this to happen is if the people who post are themselves mature and experienced in consciousness work . If we had 4 people as such , they could autocorrect any confusion which the less experienced members have and help guide the people here towards truthful conclusions about consciousness work .

 

Edited 4 hours ago by Someone here

[Someone here]

18 hours ago, oOo said:

 

@Someone here

Leo is well within his legal, personal and spiritual right to maintain as much distance as he pleases and or, is reasonable to do so.

 

That is correct. I think his answer have landed  by not answering at all .

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@Someone here What did you genuinely expect to happen as a result of this post?

[Someone here]

1 minute ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

@Someone here What did you genuinely expect to happen as a result of this post?

I genuinely expected Leo to respond with clear-cut answers to my direct questions which are found on the first page of this thread.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

On 18/10/2026 at 5:07 PM, Someone here said:

you can’t distance yourself from us forever. We are like a family

 

[Someone here]

@Natasha Tori Maru what about that quote ? 

[cetus]

On 10/18/2026 at 2:07 AM, Someone here said:

There have been a few people suggesting a fan meetup or meeting up with you in person.

Maybe you're confusing Leo with Taylor Swift.

Edited 1 hour ago by cetus

[Someone here]

6 minutes ago, cetus said:

Maybe you're confusing Leo with Taylor Swift.

Tell me one spiritual teacher who’s popular right now who still haven’t done meeting on person or through online video meetups with his followers/ fans ?

rupert spira did .

mooji did .

adyshanti did .

Nahm did .

Jim Neman did. 

Anna brown did .

Sadhuguru did .

Bentinho Massaro did .

Eckhart Tolle did .

i could go on forever … 

but somehow the most awake person ever doesn’t want to do it . lol .

[cetus]

@Someone here How many in that list have you met? Have you ever met Nahm since you mentioned him?  Be truthful.

Plus, Leo is doing a retreat soon. Did you sign up for that?

-Just curious.

 

[Someone here]

7 minutes ago, cetus said:

How many in that list have you met? Have you ever met Nahm since you mentioned him?  Be truthful.

I’m going to be truthful. No , I haven’t met any of them . And I haven’t met Nahm . But the point is that these teachers , all of them , do have that kind of medium of teaching goin on .while Leo doesn’t .
right now ,you could book a ticket or schedule a free (or paid ) video talk with him .

Let’s talk less about meeting in person(because Actualizer are from every country in the world ) and talk more about online meeting (beyond just texting on a forum ,where Leo is so happy posting these cute little offshoots of a posts ).

10 minutes ago, cetus said:

Plus, Leo is doing a retreat soon. Did you sign up for that?

-Just curious.

 

no practical thing has happened yet. Even Leo himself is still organizing his mind about how it should go . Because it essentially circles around making the participants take illegal drugs , and so there are legal issues surrounding it. I myself am not fully aware of this.

[cetus]

@Someone here  You got your message out.  I think it would be for the best if this thread is locked now.