Pornography - UK - Legal Changes

[Wilhelm44]

1 minute ago, Atb210201 said:

Come on bro don't double down on the joke it is becoming a serious convo now.

I do know about that.

And I'm sure not all of them are like that.

Do a reframe, sexual energy is part of the energy of life, it's beautiful

If it wasn't for sexual energy you wouldn't be here.

I can understand if you have a problem with porn.

But to have a problem with masturbation, that's just cruelty towards self.

It's basically like blocking your own life force.

Just enjoy it.

[Atb210201]

8 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Do a reframe, sexual energy is part of the energy of life, it's beautiful

If it wasn't for sexual energy you wouldn't be here.

I can understand if you have a problem with porn.

But to have a problem with masturbation, that's just cruelty towards self.

It's basically like blocking your own life force.

Just enjoy it.

No.

My frame stays the same.

It's only beautiful if you use it to create a new life with it.

That's life force for sure.

No other way is beautiful for it.

Edited 5 hours ago by Atb210201

[Wilhelm44]

Just now, Atb210201 said:

No.

My frame stays the same.

It's only beautiful if you use it to create a baby with it.

No other way is beautiful for it.

Seems like a heavy burden to carry.

Is that a rule that's baked into reality.

Or were you told that by someone else ?

[Atb210201]

Just now, Wilhelm44 said:

Seems like a heavy burden to carry.

Is that a rule that's baked into reality.

Or were you told that by someone else ?

I just feel right with this.

It is the only thing that feels right in my heart about it.

[Wilhelm44]

Just now, Atb210201 said:

I just feel right with this.

It is the only thing that feels right in my heart about it.

So then your problem is solved.

[Atb210201]

Just now, Wilhelm44 said:

So then your problem is solved.

Wish me luck

[Wilhelm44]

2 minutes ago, Atb210201 said:

Wish me luck

If it truly aligns with your heart.

Just make doubly sure it's not just a religious belief pretending to be a heart's desire.

[Basman]

If you busy with life you won't have the time or necessarily desire to chronically masturbate. That's how you know that people who complain a lot of porn addiction tend to be kind of losers. They don't have a lot going on typically. Idle hands are the tools of the devil.

[Atb210201]

35 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

If it truly aligns with your heart.

Just make doubly sure it's not just a religious belief pretending to be a heart's desire.

It's not about religion It's about human behaviour and true human desires that I tend to watch very closely specifically in this topic.

Thanks.

Edited 4 hours ago by Atb210201

[Atb210201]

10 minutes ago, Basman said:

If you busy with life you won't have the time or necessarily desire to chronically masturbate. That's how you know that people who complain a lot of porn addiction tend to be kind of losers. They don't have a lot going on typically. Idle hands are the tools of the devil.

Well this is true.

I am a loser if you want to put that lable on me for not having anything going on in my life.

You are right.

Edited 4 hours ago by Atb210201

[Wilhelm44]

13 minutes ago, Atb210201 said:

Well this is true.

I am a loser if you want to put that lable on me for not having anything going on in my life.

You are right.

Judgements are empty thoughts. Empty words. 

Basman believed a thought which said, people who have nothing going on are losers.

Then you believed a thought which said, well then i must be a loser.

Thought believing thought believing thought to infinity, still equals empty thought.

 

 

 

[Atb210201]

9 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Judgements are empty thoughts. Empty words. 

Basman believed a thought which said, people who have nothing going on are losers.

Then you believed a thought which said, well then i must be a loser.

Thought believing thought believing thought to infinity, still equals empty thought.

 

 

 

Judge yourself before someone else judges you.

Then they have no real weapon against you.

I have already judged myself enough to not be bothered by this.

You give me good vibes though thank you.

Edited 4 hours ago by Atb210201

[Wilhelm44]

5 minutes ago, Atb210201 said:

Judge yourself

Why ?

What benefit in judging yourself

Edited 4 hours ago by Wilhelm44

[Atb210201]

15 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Why ?

What benefit in judging yourself

Because Judgements are a good faculty of our intellect and a necessary compass to find the truth in everything, everyone, and yourself.

If you don't like the word judgement you can use assessment or evaluation instead of it.

They're all the same.

Yes there is a time to embrace.

But practicing good judgement is also necessary.

It's all about balance.

As much as self love is needed sometimes, self hatred is also needed sometimes to balance it out.

Edited 3 hours ago by Atb210201

[Jannes]

3 hours ago, Atb210201 said:

Totally different because you don't masturbate to shooting in video games but you do masturbate to porn and get pleasure out of it so of course you're gonna seek out that pleasure in the real world too if you do it long enough.

And also video games characters are not real people but pornstars are real people so imagining doing that in the real world with real people is easier.

Yes you do "masturbate" in violent video games, you fight and shoot people and get your thril, your bloodlust satisfied.

Well okay, but they do imitate real people oftentimes. But if you think this is true, do you also think then that hentai is safe?  

Edited 3 hours ago by Jannes

[Atb210201]

12 minutes ago, Jannes said:

Well okay, but they do imitate real people oftentimes. But if you think this is true, do you also think then that hentai is safe?  

Well no hentai is also not safe but could be less provoking for the imagination to imagine it in the real world.

But still I don't think that's safe either.

Sexuality overall is much more provoking and tempting in the body and mind than the thought of shooting someone.

[Basman]

57 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Judgements are empty thoughts. Empty words. 

Basman believed a thought which said, people who have nothing going on are losers.

Then you believed a thought which said, well then i must be a loser.

Thought believing thought believing thought to infinity, still equals empty thought.

We tend to overpathologize shame because we don't want to own up to our lives. If your a neet who jerks off 5 times a day and spends most of their waking hours online, and your ashamed of that, then that's a good sign you should change. Shame can be good if it lead to you taking responsibility for you life.

[Wilhelm44]

48 minutes ago, Atb210201 said:

But practicing good judgement is also necessary.

True

[Wilhelm44]

4 minutes ago, Basman said:

Shame can be good if it lead to you taking responsibility for you life.

True

[something_else]

3 hours ago, Atb210201 said:

I just feel right with this.

It is the only thing that feels right in my heart about it.

That’s fair. But banning something just because “it feels right in your heart” is quite a leap. 

You need to be able to articulate why something is wrong beyond “it feels wrong to me”.

Someone who grew up in a cult probably thinks it “feels wrong in their heart” to disobey their cult leader, they are experiencing that exact same feeling you are, yet from the outside it is plain as day that feeling is wrong, limiting, and unhealthy.

I’m not saying that you are wrong, simply that you should look more deeply into why you feel this way so strongly yet are unable to articulate a reason why.

If you can’t find a way to articulate it clearly then it may be an indication that it’s an artefact of the shame, repression or ideas you learnt about sexuality when you were younger rather than a sensible and healthy point of view.