milfs liking you a good thing or a bad thing

[Basman]

[Emerald]

3 hours ago, AION said:

I think young girls don’t appreciate intellect. For them other things are important. If you are a guy with a giant intellect it is like having a huge dick for girls that are into huge dicks, and most of the time older women are into that or special kind of people. I think I have to start catering the right thing to the right people. For example if you are in a nightclub your intellect won’t get you anything. It is all about vibe, appearance, presentation, confident and leading. Older women can lead relationships themselves so they don’t necessarily look for guys that can lead but personally I don’t like that kind of girls. 

That sounds like a limiting belief. And I used to have the same thing when I was in my early 20s. I stopped being interested in guys under the age of 30 when I turned 20 because I had a belief that they weren't going to be as interested in intellectually deep things.

Of course, guys in their 20s are less mature than guys over 30. But I had this kind of superiority thing where I just felt like guys in their 20s couldn't meet me in my depths.

But that wasn't actually true. While men (and women) in their 20s aren't as developmentally mature as men (and women) in their 30s and 40s... you're just as likely to find a person in their 20s who's oriented towards the depths.

Take me for example... I'm now in my mid/late 30s, and even though I understand more now than I did at 20 and I'm more mature... I have always been like this. I've always been oriented towards depth and towards intellect.

If you met me as a teenager or even as a kid, you're recognize that the tendency to appreciate intellectual things has always been there.

So, I don't think that a woman who has no interest in intellectual endeavors suddenly gets interested in them upon turning 40. And there are definitely women in their 20s who are interested in intellectual things.

What you may be picking up on is the added developmental maturity and life experience that comes with age. 

But if I were to communicate something to myself at 20, thinking that I was beyond men in their 20s... I'd say, just be where you are in terms of developmental maturity. Don't convince yourself that you're mature as a 40 year old when you're 20... just because you're interested in intellectual and deep things.

Then, communicate more with female peers without thinking you're superior to them.

[Emerald]

11 hours ago, AION said:

@Emerald But I think if a girl is hot and in her 20'ies she won't make moves. I never had girls in their 20'ies take the lead and ask my phone number. Or go out of their way. While older women do go out of their way, ask my number and make moves.

So I'm wondering if it just me. Or girls who are in their prime sexual market value years just don't it. Because I do can get these kind of girl but they make me work for it. 

By the way , I didn't ask the phone number of the bar tender girl although we had a great connection and we come from the same culture. She was Greek and looked like a statue. I think if a girl is hot like that she doesn't make moves. From my exp, if I want a prime girl I have to be very clear and decisive in the sense of "I'm worthy of you and I'm coming for you". Usually I'm ambivalent and that fucks me up.

From my exp, older women don't have high expectations at all. They are very easy. And they lower their standards to get a chance. I don't get this notion that says older women have higher standards. I think most women are aware of the sexual market place. If they have higher standards than a 20 year old girl while being a 40 year old they price themselves out of the market.

Young women can sometimes be shy and afraid of creeping people out by being too forward... since young women experience a lot of creepers.

I was always afraid of making the men I was interested in feel sexually creeped out or uncomfortable. So, I was very secretive about my feelings until I got a bit older. But it was out of insecurity and fear of rejection.

But I could see that cougar type women who are interested in younger men and approach them in bars might tend to be more forward and a bit easier. I'm sure they're mostly looking for a hook-up.

For me, my standards have only gotten higher as I've gotten more experience and grown wiser.

Like, the guys I was interested in in my teens and early 20s... I wouldn't touch with a 10-foot pole now.

You just live and learn. And you become wiser and more aware of who you're compatible with and incompatible with... and what your dealbreakers are. 

Also, your lifestyle standards also raise as you get older. Like, when I was 18 years old... it may have been really exciting to sleep with some hippie guy who's in a band and lives in his van. But when you're 23+, that becomes unattractive because our priorities shift to building a home, getting married, and having a family.

So, while older women who are trying to hook up with much younger men at bars might be a bit easy and they're maybe sticking around in a hooking up game that they should have matured out of... most mature older women are going to have much higher standards for men than younger women who are just experimenting and figuring out what they like.

Many young women are often willing to put up with a lot of bs. Older women tend to get to a point where they're like, "I'm too old for this."

Edited 2 hours ago by Emerald

[AION]

@Emerald I have studied Ken Wilber in depth so I know there are multiple intelligences, and intellectual intelligence is just one. There are far more like emotional and social intelligence and many more kinds of intelligence. So when somebody is low in intellectual intelligence and high in social intelligence for example. I don't see myself superior. I just see an opportunity to learn from their social intelligence. Hot girls get many chances to date and make new friends. So I don't even think that women are naturally better at emotoinal and social intelligence. They just get more traffic so to say. 

As for lower or higher standards, it really doesn't matter. It is like saying I want 50k usd for my 10 year old Toyota Corolla. Of course you can ask it but nobody is going to pay that. In dating and business it is key to lead with what you can offer, not what you want to get. Otherwise you will end up as a cat lady. And there is nothing wrogn with that if you a woman is into cat life.

I don't want to end up as a cat man so for me it was important to let go of unrealistic expections like her not having a sexual past and such. I still secretly want a virgin and that is almost impossible if I'm aiming for an early to mid 20'ies girl.

By the way older women are not only chasing me in bars but anywhere else too. I think their psychology is chasing "youth". When they can get with a younger guy they feel young again. That is their core desire I think. 

By the way I think the magic number is like 24 for women. At this age they become more serious and they start to look for men who are stable as shit, after givign their prime sexual years to losers. Other guys suddenly have to put up for her bad choices. I don't feel like I should be the guys to pay for her bad mistakes and have to jump through all of her hoops. 

If a girl doesn't let me pay for her bad choices and doesn't let me jump through all of her hoops and I can actually give her a pass. For example that bar tender girl is 27 and I didn't get the feelign she was looking for the whole package. Just looking for a soul mate and to have a good time. But there are many 27+  women that make bad choices and then make the guys they date pay for it. I have a very short fuse for thise kind of girls. My last situationship was one of those girls. Ok she was hot as a hell and 27 but she was expecting me to be the whole package while she was clearly not. The only thing she brought was her good genetics.

Edited 2 hours ago by AION

[LordFall]

5 hours ago, AION said:

There are younger girls who are into me. And I see them on a weekly basis during my work outs but they never make moves. Only give obvious signals like being giggly and excited when I talk to them. But you are right about me leveling up. I have had some stunning gfs and that pumped up my self esteem I guess. And being worthy of higher quality. It is so obvious to me that men are the price. And it is expressed in your physiology. 

 

5 hours ago, AION said:

I think young girls don’t appreciate intellect. For them other things are important. If you are a guy with a giant intellect it is like having a huge dick for girls that are into huge dicks, and most of the time older women are into that or special kind of people. I think I have to start catering the right thing to the right people. For example if you are in a nightclub your intellect won’t get you anything. It is all about vibe, appearance, presentation, confident and leading. Older women can lead relationships themselves so they don’t necessarily look for guys that can lead but personally I don’t like that kind of girls. 

They appreciate the fruit of your intellect, not the intellect itself. If you manage to use your brain to solve a lot of problems in your life and become a high-status, abundant man that makes a lot of cash, you will have more women in your life than you know what to do with.

The problem with intellect and making money is it's only half the battle; the other is emotional resilience. Building a profitable business that frees your life up and makes you a 1% man takes a lot of emotional suffering, easily 5x more than I would've thought 10 years ago. 

I've networked with multimillionaires and influencers in Toronto; there's no one dumb in those circles even if not all are intellectual powerhouses. If you are truly an intelligent man you are well set up to reap all the benefits that this world offers. You need to cut out the victim mindset and become ruthlessly focused on your goals and raising your status in your country and city.

If you truly are high IQ then become a ripped multimillionaire over the next few years and stop fucking complaining on online forums. You can get any type of woman you want, they are not that picky. They just need a man that brings something to the table and being low or medium value with a complainer's mindset on top of it is a recipe for stewing in your own shit in terms of results.

Women are offensive to men with a victim mindset because they are an existential mirror. If you are on top of your shit they love you and if you're fucking up they won't spare any time on you and will move on to a guy that's actually offering value. That's not bad, that's a divine blessing.

There is very little other experience in life that hold a candle to having hot steamy sex with a woman you find incredibly sexy that you couldn't have attracted a few years ago but she now appreciates and lusts over the man that you are today. Actually on that note there is another experience that I think is equally as good and perhaps much better, finding two of those women at the same time and cashing in your universal progress. 

The full ownership mindset works like a charm but it is a slow and painful grind. The events that I host are a lot of effort and also complicated to set up but it's already given me access to the hottest women I've ever been with in my entire life. I cannot wait to see how much it'll scale over the next 5 years; it's what makes all of my life's pain and effort worth it. 

Edited 1 hour ago by LordFall

[something_else]

54 minutes ago, AION said:

@Emerald I have studied Ken Wilber in depth so I know there are multiple intelligences, and intellectual intelligence is just one. There are far more like emotional and social intelligence and many more kinds of intelligence. So when somebody is low in intellectual intelligence and high in social intelligence for example. I don't see myself superior. I just see an opportunity to learn from their social intelligence. Hot girls get many chances to date and make new friends. So I don't even think that women are naturally better at emotoinal and social intelligence. They just get more traffic so to say. 

As for lower or higher standards, it really doesn't matter. It is like saying I want 50k usd for my 10 year old Toyota Corolla. Of course you can ask it but nobody is going to pay that. In dating and business it is key to lead with what you can offer, not what you want to get. Otherwise you will end up as a cat lady. And there is nothing wrogn with that if you a woman is into cat life.

I don't want to end up as a cat man so for me it was important to let go of unrealistic expections like her not having a sexual past and such. I still secretly want a virgin and that is almost impossible if I'm aiming for an early to mid 20'ies girl.

By the way older women are not only chasing me in bars but anywhere else too. I think their psychology is chasing "youth". When they can get with a younger guy they feel young again. That is their core desire I think. 

By the way I think the magic number is like 24 for women. At this age they become more serious and they start to look for men who are stable as shit, after givign their prime sexual years to losers. Other guys suddenly have to put up for her bad choices. I don't feel like I should be the guys to pay for her bad mistakes and have to jump through all of her hoops. 

If a girl doesn't let me pay for her bad choices and doesn't let me jump through all of her hoops and I can actually give her a pass. For example that bar tender girl is 27 and I didn't get the feelign she was looking for the whole package. Just looking for a soul mate and to have a good time. But there are many 27+  women that make bad choices and then make the guys they date pay for it. I have a very short fuse for thise kind of girls. My last situationship was one of those girls. Ok she was hot as a hell and 27 but she was expecting me to be the whole package while she was clearly not. The only thing she brought was her good genetics.

The misery emanating from this is palpable 

[Inliytened1]

6 hours ago, AION said:

I think young girls don’t appreciate intellect. For them other things are important. If you are a guy with a giant intellect it is like having a huge dick for girls that are into huge dicks, and most of the time older women are into that or special kind of people. 

I think you speak of maturity more than intellect.  Older women have become less picky or hung up on physical appearance and your level of coolness.  They're more interested in your mind and who you are as a person.  They can more easily see beyond the surface level stuff. Younger women rarely are this way but there are always exceptions.  It is mostly because of experience.  An older woman has already been through it all.   That's also probably why they are more sexually outgoing.  They have already established what they like.  Again..always exceptions.  

Edited 1 hour ago by Inliytened1