Relationships are immature.

[Majed]

Think about it, we tend to think of relationships as this beautiful conscious thing but really is it ? Most relationship are pretty dysfunctional and immature where there's violence, screaming, hatred, insults, sexually criminal behavior on the extreme end of the spectrum, etc... Most relationships are garbage and don't last very long, romantic ones. People are using each other for sex or love. And really it's chimp behavior. Such a waste of time. Even i've been reflecting on sex lately and realized that i can have sex once in a while, but i'm not going out of my way to get laid. Celibacy is the way for me, mostly as i am an introvert and enjoy my own company as well as connecting with God, the source of all wisdom. 

I'm a virgin but i already see the dangers of toxic abusive relationships, wasting time in a sex addicted lifestyle, and how relationships in general are a distration from raising one's awareness, and an attachment which prevents one's mind from being totally unlimited and infinitely truthful. 

I don't need to relate to apes, i want to relate with God, the source of life, and life itself. 

Edited 4 hours ago by Majed

[Xonas Pitfall]

Most things can be done either immaturely or maturely.

Meditation can be done immaturely or maturely.

Business can be done immaturely or maturely.

Not surprisingly, relationships can also be done immaturely or maturely.

And of course, life itself can be done immaturely or maturely.

It really isn't the thing itself; for the most part, it's how it is done.

Or you could say with what level of consciousness it is done.

[Majed]

@Xonas Pitfall Crack cannot be done maturely for the most part. Lol. 

[meta_male]

No, celibacy is not the way for you, bro, it's cope. You simply don't read of people making posts like "I have such a great relationship!" If you're a virgin you are missing out, sorry to say.

[Majed]

@meta_male 

5 minutes ago, meta_male said:

If you're a virgin you are missing out, sorry to say.

That's immaturity right there. 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Too absolute.

Not all relationships are immature.

[meta_male]

@Majed 

What are you afraid to lose?

[LordFall]

Bro that has to be one of the stupidest thing I've ever seen written lol.

There's so many ways to address this but I'll leave you with this

It's not because most people have shitty relationships that you can't build a phenomenal one. That's like saying because most people have a basic house, mansions and castles can't exist.

I'll be in my castle with my many wives, feel free to be a virgin for life if that's what you want. I suggest you try sleeping with a few baddies and dating the coolest one you find before you give up on dating though. 

Edited 2 hours ago by LordFall

[Majed]

30 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Too absolute.

Not all relationships are immature.

@Natasha Tori Maru Yes, i had a relationship with a somewhat mature person as a friendship, but like it's extremely rare to find mature people. Most people are either brainwashed with religion, science, or they're money whores, or drug addicts, etc... 

At my level of mind, it's rare to find people i can relate to.

[Majed]

@LordFall

25 minutes ago, LordFall said:

Bro that has to be one of the stupidest thing I've ever seen written lol.

There's so many ways to address this but I'll leave you with this

It's not because most people have shitty relationships that you can't build a phenomenal one. That's like saying because most people have a basic house, mansions and castles can't exist.

I'll be in my castle with my many wives, feel free to be a virgin for life if that's what you want. I suggest you try sleeping with a few baddies and dating the coolest one you find before you give up on dating though. 

Bro, a good dose of spiritual development would be good for your mind. You're too materialistic and sex oriented. 

[Majed]

34 minutes ago, meta_male said:

@Majed 

What are you afraid to lose?

My virginity 😝.

[LordFall]

I would say I'm extremely spiritually developed. I meditate almost daily and each new day I find myself further falling in love with God, reality and my fellow humans.

Be careful to not internalize your failures in dating and tell yourself a beautiful tale that you're beyond it now and are actually too developed to appreciate it when you can't even achieve it in the first place. 

A wise man adapts his strategy when the solution he's trying to solve a problem is not working. Have you tried online dating and hiring a photographer like I've suggested you do a few weeks ago? 

Read my thread on problem solving if you haven't already, it's way deeper than it seems at first glance.

If you were competent at solving your problems you wouldn't have made this thread.

No shame in this, just adopt a superior strategy and achieve all your wildest dreams brother! You got this. 

[Majed]

@LordFall The point of spiritual development is to abandon material ways of thinking and being. 

[Someone here]

Brother , you are all over the place . Every other day you contradict what you said earlier. 
I suggest long-time of introspection and spending time figuring out your most authentic desired lifestyle. 
I know you are a young man and it’s normally to be confused in your age, as you don’t have that much life experience.

Do you REALLY  Want to be a virgin and single for the rest of your life ? I don’t buy it .

[LordFall]

18 minutes ago, Majed said:

@LordFall The point of spiritual development is to abandon material ways of thinking and being. 

Not at all, I would call that dogmatic religious asceticism, not true spirituality. Reality is non-dual; the material world IS God manifest.

If your spirituality requires you to abandon physical reality because you can't handle the friction of human connection, you're not transcending life, you're running away from it.

Try getting more spiritual and getting beyond eating food and drinking water or taking a dump and let me know how that worked out for you. 

[Valach]

1 minute ago, LordFall said:

Try getting more spiritual and getting beyond eating food and drinking water or taking a dump and let me know how that worked out for you. 

But running around chasing sex is not a basic need like drinking or eating.

[LordFall]

6 minutes ago, Valach said:

But running around chasing sex is not a basic need like drinking or eating.

Intimacy and sex ARE fundamental human drives and also needs. It's why MGTOW as an ideology doesn't work and tends to produce frustrated and bitter individuals.

@Majed seems like he's encountering some hard walls in his dating journey but that is not a reason to abandon it altogether. One should temporarily take a break and rethink their strategy if it's not serving their goals though, nothing wrong with that. 

[Valach]

1 minute ago, LordFall said:

Intimacy and sex ARE fundamental human drives and also needs. It's why MGTOW as an ideology doesn't work and tends to produce frustrated and bitter individuals.

@Majed seems like he's encountering some hard walls in his dating journey but that is not a reason to abandon it altogether. One should temporarily take a break and rethink their strategy if it's not serving their goals though, nothing wrong with that. 

I am not here to defend bypassing like @Majed is doing. But there is huge stretch for you to compare setting up complicated dating schemes to water and drinking.

Intimacy and sex are not needs in the sense that you would die without them. How deeply they are linked to your own sense of contentment is individual and depends on the stage of development as well. But they are not comparable. 

[LordFall]

3 minutes ago, Valach said:

I am not here to defend bypassing like @Majed is doing. But there is huge stretch for you to compare setting up complicated dating schemes to water and drinking.

Intimacy and sex are not needs in the sense that you would die without them. How deeply they are linked to your own sense of contentment is individual and depends on the stage of development as well. But they are not comparable. 

Have you heard of Maslow's hierarchy of needs? I think this model is quite helpful to visualize healthy human development.

If you mean my personal dating strategy, it's only complicated for someone who doesn't get it. From my perspective I have fun pursuing different activities, posting myself engaging in them and continuously levelling up my attractiveness level. I read a lot of men on here and in society at large being fed up and overwhelmed with dating and that's a shame.

If done right it should be like a video games where as you conquer different hurdles, you get better and better at getting your wants and needs met through attracting high quality people into your life. 

 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

46 minutes ago, Majed said:

@Natasha Tori Maru Yes, i had a relationship with a somewhat mature person as a friendship, but like it's extremely rare to find mature people. Most people are either brainwashed with religion, science, or they're money whores, or drug addicts, etc... 

At my level of mind, it's rare to find people i can relate to.

There is some domain and category error here. Maturity is its own seperate thing in different areas that requires defining before broad claims can be made.

How old are you? Do you have a professional career? What field?