My Latest Solipsistic Insight

[Inliytened1]

@Willy Phallicus by the way.  Rupirt Spira. I think it woukd be interesting to ask him how it all ties together? If there are separate consciousnesses somehow sharing this whole deal.

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[Willy Phallicus]

10 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Rupirt Spira. I think it woukd be interesting to ask him how it all ties together? If there are separate consciousnesses somehow sharing this whole deal.

Ive listened to him.  He says the same thing Leo says (one universal mind) except he doesn't use the word solipsism.  I know he is not fond of the word as are many other teachers but that's just a preference not because solipsism is the path directly to hell.

Ive lost count of how many 'solipsism is total bullshit' videos Ive watched where they all agree that everything is one but acknowledging one is the loneliest number is somehow detrimental to you because I dunno, you'll start taking responsibility for your life and stop paying attention to them.

 

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[Inliytened1]

16 minutes ago, Willy Phallicus said:

Ive listened to him.  He says the same thing Leo says (one universal mind) except he doesn't use the word solipsism.  I know he is not fond of the word as are many other teachers but that's just a preference not because solipsism is the path directly to hell.

Ive lost count of how many 'solipsism is total bullshit' videos Ive watched where they all agree that everything is one but acknowledging one is the loneliest number is somehow detrimental to you because I dunno, you'll start taking responsibility for your life and stop paying attention to them.

 

@Willy Phallicus yeah the labeling isn't necessary. I never labeled. But on my last awakening I was like holy fuck. You are my own mind and always have been. 

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[Carl-Richard]

2 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

Yeah.  And I think there you admitted to taking a position. If that's the post. But it's more than that. Can you not see the paradigm you have adopted? Don't feel bad... @Someone here is right along side you.  Both of you have seemingly adopted this paradigm. But to you its "truth" and god forbid anyone say otherwise.  Reminds me of a few Christians i know!

The paradigm is that Absolute truth cannot be spoken because it is fundamentally beyond language, indescribable, ineffable. Any pointing to the truth is a pointer, not the truth itself. And any paradigm that supports itself on the notion that it has to explain reality in any way based on any criteria, is a philosophy, a convenient fiction. And if that is your idea of solipsism, then solipsism is a convenient fiction. Pointing to non-duality itself, is also a convenient fiction, when the goal is awakening. Pointing is convenient for that. "Nah but actually solipsism though, don't you know you're One, don't you know you're God, don't you know you're alone?", literal white noise that doesn't address anything that was said.

 

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

No actually nothing at all should justify insulting others because you disagree with them.

I responded to whether the argument becoming weaker or not matters. I did not try to justify the emotional response. It doesn't really need a justification in any case.

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[Willy Phallicus]

12 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

If there are separate consciousnesses somehow sharing this whole deal.

Other is not real.  God makes it real.  Because GOD.  If you think that making other real is impossible to God then the atheists and christians are ahead of you in the Godlympics.  Solipsism isn't the issue, doubting Gods omnipotence is the issue and well, if you fail at that then thats on you.  Especially if you want to say you've had awakenings.

That doesn't mean Willy isn't a dream character in your dream because so are you.  Its a mirror.  When you put Willy in your dream Willy lives his every agonizing second of his own life and meets you at that moment in time and space because thats the experience God wanted to have and his infinite power makes it possible.  It both exists and doesn't exist at the same time - resolution of the grand paradox that can not be imparted through language alone - you have to experience universal consciousness and not go into fluff and horseshit afterwards.

13 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

But on my last Awakening I was like holy fuck. You are my own mind and always have been. 

People always make it more complicated than it is.  Your ego doesn't die.  You don't ascend and become a light being capable of manipulating matter and reality by waving you hands around and concentrating with squinty eyes.  Your ego gets out of the way and you step into Christ mode.  

Hello me, its me again.  Oh what a relief, I was starting to take human existence seriously again.  I was actually posting in man hating threads with the rest of the braindeads.  How great is this that I keep getting lost in the game like this.  Its almost like my goal of conquering infinity is working out perfectly or something.  Think Ill take a little rest from being a human and just lay here for a little while knowing that time and death arent real and no one is really suffering, least of all me and after this dream is over I can have a better dream where the women folk do less talking and more worshipping their male counterparts.

[Carl-Richard]

1 hour ago, Willy Phallicus said:

The dude thinks we are making a religion out of solipsism because its his own idiot contention that the word is blasphemous.

Let that sink in.

Maybe you're not yourself cognitively challenged enough to go on a 50-paragraph long logical deduction about what eyeballs and biological bodies supposedly have to do with Absolute Truth, but don't pretend like people aren't being hopelessly delusional about what "solipsism" (if it can be called Absolute) actually entails and that sometimes some clarity is in order.

 

2 hours ago, Willy Phallicus said:

I dont shit all over buddhists and nonduals or peoples champions like Rupert Spira because we're all talking the same language but just enjoy our kool aid in different flavors so its just like get over yourself.

So then you can retract your snide "pretty sure most of us have clued in that you didnt get the message" because you're obviously way beyond that infantile understanding.

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[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, Carl-Richard said:

Maybe you're not yourself cognitively challenged enough to go on 50-paragraph long logical deduction about what eyeballs and biological bodies supposedly have to do with Absolute Truth, but don't pretend like people aren't being hopelessly delusional about what "solipsism" (if it can be called Absolute) actually entails and that sometimes some clarity is in order.

 

So then you can retract your snide "pretty sure most of us have clued in that you didnt get the message" because you're obviously way beyond that kind of infantile behavior.

@Willy Phallicus if you want a Christ Awakening listen to these boys.  Amazing.  You will awake instantly. And I met them personally 

 

[Willy Phallicus]

3 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Maybe you're not yourself cognitively challenged enough to go on a 50-paragraph long logical deduction about what eyeballs and biological bodies supposedly have to do with Absolute Truth

Im smart enough to know that Absolute Truth and the words logical deduction don't belong in the same sentence so what's your dumbass excuse? 

[Carl-Richard]

Just now, Willy Phallicus said:

Im smart enough to know that Absolute Truth and the words logical deduction don't belong in the same sentence so what's your dumbass excuse? 

Just trying to make it blindingly obvious and underscoring the circus that is going on.

[Willy Phallicus]

2 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Just trying to make it blindingly obvious and underscoring the circus that is going on.

Dont blame me dude you're the guy that rolled up in the clown car and then got out and started miming like you knew what you were talking about.  It aint my fault your clueless, don't lay that shit on my doorstep.

It be easier to just say your biased against the word solipsism for very personal reasons than actually try and make the case that there is something inherently wrong with the word because there isn't.  If you dont want to do that go skulk off to your asshole happy place where solipsists are cult members and call it a day.

[Carl-Richard]

@Willy Phallicus

My final clown show was about showing how solipsism is a word while some people make it into a metaphysical holy grail that putatively explains everything you can perceive in the universe and that any alternative word or formulation or lens is illusory untrue non-truth non-trueness. And to then respond to the assertion that the only way I would hold such an opinion is if I had no experience myself and need to go back to non-dual kindergarten and chew kitchen cloths for a few years. Don't conflate that with the other show where I tried to argue that it's a culturally raped word.

[Willy Phallicus]

You're the guy claiming solipsism is blasphemous and demonic, burden of proof is on you bro. So far the best you can come up with is its for Leo fanboys because Carl said so.

Then go around talking about how people who disagree with you are religious zealots.  You cant make up how dense you gotta be to be making that case.

[Carl-Richard]

9 minutes ago, Willy Phallicus said:

You're the guy claiming solipsism is blasphemous and demonic, burden of proof is on you bro. So far the best you can come up with is its for Leo fanboys because Carl said so.

Then go around talking about how people who disagree with you are religious zealots.  You cant make up how dense you gotta be to be making that case.

The religion of Leo goes way beyond solipsism, we all know that. I've made my case for why solipsism is culturally raped, you can address those points if you want. If you disagree that it's a word and not the literal Absolute, you can say why. And if you disagree that worm-brained Absolute-relative conflation behavior circles that very word as exemplified by this thread and perhaps the magnum opus of "solipsism disproves veganism" (real thread), you can say that as well. Whether or not you personally like to use the word as a responsible adult with half a brain is up to you.

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[Willy Phallicus]

5 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

I've made my case for why solipsism is culturally raped, you can address those points if you want.

There's nothing to argue with.  I can't argue with your personal beef with solipsism anymore than I can argue with Rupert Spira's.  Im saying God exists and you guys are telling me yeah God exists but we cant call it God because I prefer Mohammed.  Okay...?  The word god gives people the ick - um okay, fuck 'em.  The Truth aint for everybody.  Many are called but few are chosen.

I can just point out that we are saying the same thing with different words and I dont care how you regard it but you're crossing a line when you're telling me you care very deeply how I am regarding it and all your reasons are basically unsubstantiated theories based on feels and preconceived biases that makes me a member of a demonic cult. 

And if thats how you feel about it Im obliged to call you out on your bullshit if you wanna go public with it.

[Leo Gura]

Keep it civil and respectful.

[Carl-Richard]

10 minutes ago, Willy Phallicus said:

There's nothing to argue with.  I can't argue with your personal beef with solipsism anymore than I can argue with Rupert Spira's.  Im saying God exists and you guys are telling me yeah God exists but we cant call it God because I prefer Mohammed.  Okay...?  The word god gives people the ick - um okay, fuck 'em.  The Truth aint for everybody.  Many are called but few are chosen.

I can just point out that we are saying the same thing with different words and I dont care how you regard it but you're crossing a line when you're telling me you care very deeply how I am regarding it and all your reasons are basically unsubstantiated theories based on feels and preconceived biases that makes me a member of a demonic cult. 

And if thats how you feel about it Im obliged to call you out on your bullshit if you wanna go public with it.

You can disagree with the arguments for why it's culturally fucked, no problem. It's not an "I'm right by logical necessity" kind of argument. It's a "is your cup filled beyond the brim with this or can you stomach it"? It's perhaps more a political argument than anything. "We've seen a big increase in thefts around this neighborhood, is it perhaps time to do something about it?".

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[Joseph Maynor]

What is solipsism pointing to?