Sadism must be one of the foundational values of God

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@LordFall You are misunderstanding again. But it seems wilfully so?

[yetineti]

There are no mechanics to suffering, that’s been the whole point that you’ve missed. 

You’re not going to figure out the mechanics to something that fundamentally does not exist, whether you experience it subjectively or not.

 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

4 minutes ago, yetineti said:

You’re not going to figure out the mechanics to something that fundamentally does not exist,

In the words of Ralston "You are doing it! Stop doing it!" >.<

[Joseph Maynor]

I think attachment to the ism is something that thinkers seem to be drawn to.  It is like an atom for thinking types.  

[Xonas Pitfall]

28 minutes ago, LordFall said:

I'll point out that there are very few people on this forum that have the humility to admit they're wrong. I've had discussions on topics I'm an expert on with people with no clue and they flail out. Very few users have the lack of ego to just say ''Huh that's an interesting point, I'll think on it."

I think this is an interesting discussion. As long as both parties acknowledge each other's counterpoints, I don't see any issue with continuing the debate.

I don't think you've acknowledged anyone else's perspective anywhere in this post. If anything, you've immediately resorted to things like, "You're parroting," "You're spiritually bypassing hard lol," "You're making up opinions out of thin air," "I think you're being intellectually dishonest."

There's no need to get frustrated. You raised a debate point, and now people are debating you. That's the whole point of a lot of these forums.

[Joseph Maynor]

Nah man, I don't think so.  This is all crap. 

[Jirh]

Life is suffering.

So what?

[Joseph Maynor]

3 minutes ago, Jirh said:

Life is suffering.

So what?

Life is joy to me.  

[Willy Phallicus]

7 hours ago, LordFall said:

I just don't understand why humanity's history had to be so painful and bleak to get there. 

If you want to give true substance to an abstraction the first thing you do is very lovingly and very tenderly run it through a shitpipe of existential terror of a feeding and fucking frenzy until the madness is beyond all measure .. anything short of this and you still got nothing but gossamer cotton candy instead of true vital sentience giving expression to a fierce and burning love as it rips through eternity into infinity.

[Jirh]

20 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Life is joy to me.  

Good for you. Enjoy it while it lasts.

[Joseph Maynor]

Just now, Jirh said:

Good for you. Enjoy it while it lasts.

Gracias!

[Willy Phallicus]

In the Secret Teaching of All Ages, Manly P. Hall recounts this old mystery school allegory of how at the end of the journey satan transfigures into his true form of lucifer and tells man that he(lucifer) became the demon satan out of love for man and all the pain and torment was inflicted in mans best interest because it was the only way it could be in order for mans true potential to be fulfilled.

He's probably right.