There Is No Friend-zone on Semen Retention

[Monster Energy]

Semen retention breaks the spell women have over you. Their beauty doesn’t tempt you in the same way anymore, because you’ve experienced a deeper kind of beauty within yourself and your own energy. And that’s exactly why they become sexually attracted to you. They feel like they’re missing something that you have, and they want to have sex with you to feel whole again, while also draining your sexual energy and bringing you back down to their level. That’s when the chasing stops. A woman will never accept a man having a higher aura than her.

 

 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by Monster Energy

[something_else]

Honestly I find when I don't cum it makes me more desperate for women if anything.

[Monster Energy]

5 minutes ago, something_else said:

Honestly I find when I don't cum it makes me more desperate for women if anything.

That’s because you’re still focused on the urge. In the beginning it can make you more desperate, but over time you learn to control it instead of letting it control you. You redirect that energy into yourself instead of chasing women. It’s very hard because your mind doesn’t feel ready for it, but that’s exactly when you have to do it.

 

 

[Mayonnaise]

@Monster Energy Every streak I've ever been on (even if it's like 3-5 days (not necessarily a streak)) I'll have women legit staring at me wherever I go and you can "feel" the looks on you. It's so strange. Like you can literally feel their desire.

[Monster Energy]

9 minutes ago, Mayonnaise said:

@Monster Energy Every streak I've ever been on (even if it's like 3-5 days (not necessarily a streak)) I'll have women legit staring at me wherever I go and you can "feel" the looks on you. It's so strange. Like you can literally feel their desire.

Wow, not even a week. It’s a magical experience. But for the majority of guys, the real magic happens beyond 90–100 days. They can feel that you’re not seeking their validation anymore, and that creates attraction. The more you hold onto that energy, the more they start noticing you.

 

 

[something_else]

57 minutes ago, Monster Energy said:

That’s because you’re still focused on the urge. In the beginning it can make you more desperate, but over time you learn to control it instead of letting it control you. You redirect that energy into yourself instead of chasing women. It’s very hard because your mind doesn’t feel ready for it, but that’s exactly when you have to do it.

 

 

I think it has value for guys who struggle with excessive urges to masturbate or watch porn.

In my case, I enjoy sex, and I enjoy jerking off. Neither has really impacted my life in any direct way. I don't really feel any shame around either and I don't find that abstaining has any significant impact on me, beyond making me less able to focus on important stuff because my mind focuses on sex.

I guess you can argue that eventually you learn to control those urges after lots of abstaining and somehow that benefits you, but I struggle to see what the mechanism would be there. Most likely you just end up more desperate than you would otherwise be because women are your only source of orgasm, so you need women more.

IMO if you don't naturally struggle with an addiction to jerking off, all you do by getting into nofap and semen retention is give yourself a massive complex of shame around something that's pretty natural and healthy.

Edited 3 hours ago by something_else

[Monster Energy]

4 minutes ago, something_else said:

I think it has value for guys who struggle with excessive urges to masturbate or watch porn.

In my case, I enjoy sex, and I enjoy jerking off. I don't really feel any shame around either and I don't find that abstaining has any significant impact on me, beyond making me less able to focus on important stuff because my mind focuses on sex.

IMO if you don't naturally struggle with an addiction to jerking off, all you do by getting into nofap and semen retention is give yourself a massive complex of shame around something that's pretty natural and healthy.

I used to masturbate every day. I loved it more than being present in the moment, and I felt no shame about it. A few years ago, I started noticing that the more I masturbated, the emptier I felt afterward.

As a teenager, I could masturbate every day, sometimes multiple times a day, without feeling that emptiness because I already had a lot of energy. But I promise you, there may come a day when you feel mentally and physically drained, and that’s when your soul tells you it’s time to abstain from sex.

The fact that you don’t feel any shame doesn’t mean it’s not affecting you. If you need to constantly satisfy that urge just to stay focused, that’s already something worth questioning. Sex is natural, but constantly gooning and feeding the urge isn’t the same thing.

 

[something_else]

4 minutes ago, Monster Energy said:

I used to masturbate every day. I loved it more than being present in the moment, and I felt no shame about it. A few years ago, I started noticing that the more I masturbated, the emptier I felt afterward.

As a teenager, I could masturbate every day, sometimes multiple times a day, without feeling that emptiness because I already had a lot of energy. But I promise you, there may come a day when you feel mentally and physically drained, and that’s when your soul tells you it’s time to abstain from sex.

The fact that you don’t feel any shame doesn’t mean it’s not affecting you. If you need to constantly satisfy that urge just to stay focused, that’s already something worth questioning. Sex is natural, but constantly gooning and feeding the urge isn’t the same thing.

 

If anything sex energises me, I feel more drained when I go without it for extended periods. I don't really feel drained day to day in general either, so no fap or semen retention just feels like a solution to a problem I don't have. Not to mention, not ejaculating increases your risk of prostate cancer.

The only thing I regularly do that makes me feel drained is vaping nicotine, and that's largely because it is such a strong addiction with lots of shame associated with it.

[Inliytened1]

2 hours ago, Monster Energy said:

Semen retention breaks the spell women have over you. Their beauty doesn’t tempt you in the same way anymore, because you’ve experienced a deeper kind of beauty within yourself and your own energy. And that’s exactly why they become sexually attracted to you. They feel like they’re missing something that you have, and they want to have sex with you to feel whole again, while also draining your sexual energy and bringing you back down to their level. That’s when the chasing stops. A woman will never accept a man having a higher aura than her.

 

 

 

It doesn't bring you more women it's a form of suffering that can be channeled into spiritual growth. That's all.  It's not going to magically bring you more women.

Edited 2 hours ago by Inliytened1

[Rafael Thundercat]

I can see the word Shame repeated here a lot. In other post I brougth the importance to understand this issue. 

Overall I agree that cuming with porn or not porn makes one less focused and depleted of energy, mainly if one is older and lack of Ojas may affect daily life. But come one, will we come back to this obssesion with retention again. I think I read other threads about this long time ago. Guys, I dont care what you do with your dicks. 

[Rafael Thundercat]

2 hours ago, Monster Energy said:

 

 

 

 

If I was me in this video I would have sex with her 

[Inliytened1]

@Monster Energy jerking off feels empty but so does sex with a random girl have you ever had sex with a woman? And then rolled over and wanted nothing more to do with the situation.  That's emptiness and it is no different.  Sex in general is very empty because it is animalistic.  But it's a part of what we are. When you deny it you will suffer.  This is good spiritually.  But in terms of being more attractive to women..only in the sense that you are already accustomed to not getting anything so you might emit a stronger persona that's not so desperate.  But it can work against you as well.

Edited 2 hours ago by Inliytened1

[Monster Energy]

41 minutes ago, something_else said:

If anything sex energises me, I feel more drained when I go without it for extended periods. I don't really feel drained day to day in general either, so no fap or semen retention just feels like a solution to a problem I don't have. Not to mention, not ejaculating increases your risk of prostate cancer.

The only thing I regularly do that makes me feel drained is vaping nicotine, and that's largely because it is such a strong addiction with lots of shame associated with it.

Fair enough, but you won’t really know until you try it yourself. And the prostate cancer claim is false. There’s no solid evidence that not ejaculating causes prostate cancer.

Semen retention heals the body. It’s a type of fasting, and all forms of fasting are beneficial for human health.

 

[Ulax]

Unless paired with smart social-circle work or cold approach this is mostly self-torture

[Inliytened1]

5 minutes ago, Ulax said:

Unless paired with smart social-circle work or cold approach this is mostly self-torture

It is very much self torture.   Why? No clue because he isn't trying to be the Buddha 

 That's for sure.  It's just another Gen Z cool thing to do. 

Edited 2 hours ago by Inliytened1

[Ulax]

14 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

It is very much self torture.   Why? No clue because he isn't trying to be the Buddha 

 That's for sure.  It's just another Gen Z cool thing to do. 

Yes, its a .22  when 50 calibre solution is needed

[Inliytened1]

3 minutes ago, Ulax said:

Yes, its a .22  when 50 calibre solution is needed

Haha! You mean a Magnum solution.  Not a .44 Magnum.  Ever slide one of those puppies on? 😀

[Monster Energy]

1 hour ago, Inliytened1 said:

It doesn't bring you more women it's a form of suffering that can be channeled into spiritual growth. That's all.  It's not going to magically bring you more women.

The suffering will make you whole.

The bonus is that you’ll get women’s attention without even trying. The energy does the work.

 

[Monster Energy]

45 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

I can see the word Shame repeated here a lot. In other post I brougth the importance to understand this issue. 

Overall I agree that cuming with porn or not porn makes one less focused and depleted of energy, mainly if one is older and lack of Ojas may affect daily life. But come one, will we come back to this obssesion with retention again. I think I read other threads about this long time ago. Guys, I dont care what you do with your dicks. 

I think the obsession is more with shame than with retention. If someone chooses to practice retention because they feel better doing it, why not? Nobody is forcing you to do it.

 

[Inliytened1]

2 minutes ago, Monster Energy said:

The suffering will make you whole.

The bonus is that you’ll get women’s attention without even trying. The energy does the work.

 

Maybe. Maybe.  But you can also do the same without self torture if that's the goal.  Now..if you had a real problem with jerking off, then yes. I would say do what you are doing. It's why an alcoholic goes to AA.