The Legend of Zelda Remake Discussion

[Basman]

7 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

They are still gonna keep making mainline, open world Zelda games.

This is just a spin-off.

Tears was a great game.

Yeah okay, maybe I was exaggerating a little, but it seems pretty true for Pokemon though. Pokemon is like baby formula at this point. Its gruel. 

[Cubbage]

31 minutes ago, Basman said:

When was the last time they made an original game?

Donkey Kong Bananza came out last year and that game was mechanically original in various ways. Yes, it's the same IP, but the actual game was completely different to anything they'd made before in the plaftorming genre.

[Cubbage]

I'm playing the remake right now and enjoying it a lot. Gave some of my thoughts here:
 

 

[Cubbage]

42 minutes ago, Basman said:

Pokemon is like baby formula at this point. Its gruel. 

Yeah Pokemon has been trash for a long time, fully agree.

[Juan]

37 minutes ago, Cubbage said:

Donkey Kong Bananza came out last year and that game was mechanically original in various ways. Yes, it's the same IP, but the actual game was completely different to anything they'd made before in the plaftorming genre.

I couldn’t keep up with Bananza although is a fun game but, the reward system feels like a casino sloth machine to me and I felt overstimulated.

[Juan]

One of my favorite tracks so far, feels very tropical/caribbean vibes.

@Cubbage got any favorite track?

Edited 21 hours ago by Juan

[VioleGrace]

On 11/09/2026 at 1:58 AM, Leo Gura said:

The story in Zelda games is so uninteresting to me that I don't even regard them as having stories.

Frankly, I do not like Zelda games because I do not enjoy solving puzzles and the story and characters are all uninteresting and childish.

I never play video games for story, because if I wanted great story, I would read a book or watch a serious film. Even most film stories are poor. Video games are not a good medium for story-telling. There is no video game that I love because its story is so good.

Majora's Mask I did not play because it was obviously a quick and cheap asset flip, not a proper sequel.

I understand why you guys love it, but my tastes are different.

Did you tried Tales of symphonia ? And clair-obscur 33expedition  ? 

[Leo Gura]

20 minutes ago, VioleGrace said:

Did you tried Tales of symphonia ? And clair-obscur 33expedition  ? 

Nope. I dislike overly Japanese RPGs like Final Fantasy.

[gengar]

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Nope. I dislike overly Japanese RPGs like Final Fantasy.

You seem to dislike almost everything.

[Leo Gura]

50 minutes ago, gengar said:

You seem to dislike almost everything.

That's called having high artistic standards.

[Cubbage]

Disliking JRPG's is totally fair, there's a lot to dislike in them, beyond even the gameplay mechanics. I love Japan, go there for 3 months a year, am making a seinen manga inspired visual novel and can speak Japanese, and even I find most anime style stuff in anything pretty cringey. Also, Japanese stories can often feel fairly formulaic, how many Japanese, or Japanese inspired games end with killing God? Once you notice that trope it gets very tiresome, despite how intricate the plots are in FF there are a lot of painfully similar plots that are flavoured differently. 6 has the best story and since it's a 2D game with no voice acting, it's much less annoying than the hyper-anime feeling games from X onwards 

Speaking of anime, the Zelda remake has some super cheesy, OTT, low-budget sounding anime voice acting which is the very worst addition to the game. It is crazy how a game this important and revered has such a bad VA cast, when Studio Ghibli movies and certain exceptional anime series have brilliant dubbing.

Edited 14 hours ago by Cubbage

[Cubbage]

My favourite example of relatively modern RPG storytelling is Pathologic 2. Beautifully meta plot & the writing is brimming with personality.

[Cubbage]

7 hours ago, Juan said:

 

@Cubbage got any favorite track?

I really like what they did here, great re-imagining of probably my favourite tune in the original other than the shadow temple (not got there in the remake yet).

[RickyFitts]

6 hours ago, Cubbage said:

I really like what they did here, great re-imagining of probably my favourite tune in the original other than the shadow temple (not got there in the remake yet).

I found that pretty heavy-handed tbh, it loses the subtlety of the original for me. I do like what they've done with the music in the game on the whole though, they've just augmented the original score rather than completely overhauling it.

[Juan]

10 hours ago, Cubbage said:

I really like what they did here, great re-imagining of probably my favourite tune in the original other than the shadow temple (not got there in the remake yet).

I haven’t got there yet, I’m on Fire Temple adult link.

[Leo Gura]

11 hours ago, Cubbage said:

My favourite example of relatively modern RPG storytelling is Pathologic 2. Beautifully meta plot & the writing is brimming with personality.

I tried playing Pathologic but could not stick with it.

[jjer94]

17 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Nope. I dislike overly Japanese RPGs like Final Fantasy.

But Leo! Expedition 33's plot is akin to The Matrix or The Truman Show, and has a lot to explore philosophically. If you never play it, I recommend watching it like a TV series. A truly deep, substantial game. I beat it a month ago and I'm still thinking about the implications of the plot... I'd actually be very curious to hear your thoughts on it given your expertise.