Challenging Leo on women

[Alexop]

1 hour ago, Schizophonia said:

I'm here for that  🔫

Good luck buddy! Don't listen to me.

I theorize about masculinity and femininity instead. I learn how to be a man. Maybe what I theorize about you call attraction theory. I call it healthy masculinity.

The work should be about how to become a guy who is irresistible. Not about learning some cheap tricks that will trick the girl. So many guys need to learn this pick-up shit is because they suck as people. They are undesirable. They have to fake a likable persona.

Edited 11 hours ago by Alexop

[Emerald]

14 hours ago, BlessedLion said:

Fine. But because women are more attracted to internal qualities, i can't help but think Joe is less of a great option. If Joe spent a decade building his confidence, wealth, status and social skills, he might have been sleeping with women who are way hotter than Sarah, but since he didn't, Sarah is the best option he can get.

If Sarah doesn't care about confidence, status, financial stability, social skills, charisma, then good for her, this works out then.

As I said, statistically, romantic partners tend to be each-other's looks-match.

But also.. romantic partners tend to statistically have equivalent levels of education and socio-economic success... and have similar values.

There also tends to be a relative equality of age among partners... where the average age difference between male and female partners is 2 years.

And I feel like all your theories are looking at romantic relationships unrealistically where there are these huge imbalances that are very uncommon in real life... where the woman is hot, young, and poor and the man is old, average/ugly looking, high-status and rich.

But somehow magically, this is the most desirable and satisfying arrangement for both partners.

That's why you were like, "Why aren't all the 20 years olds with 50 year old men?" which indicates to me that you don't have a realistic picture of how human beings actually tend to pair bond.

So, if we're taking an actual realistic non-fantasy perspective on human dating/relationships/marriages... 

If Sarah is an average looking educated women with a good job and good social skills... she's quite likely to find an average-looking educated man with a good job and good social skills.

And if Sarah is a kind person with high self-esteem, she will likely be attracted to and attract a kind man with high self-esteem. 

And while it's true that women are attracted more to personality than looks, that doesn't mean that looks isn't her initial filter.

If I'm a 6, there's no world that exists where I'm attracted to a 3 in looks... even if he's perfect 10s across the board in all other areas. So, looks is a hard stop for most women... even though women are generally slightly looks-hypogamous.

So, what's realistic is if Sarah and Joe have about the same level of attractiveness... and he'll probably have similar values and qualities to her, whatever they happen to be.

If she sucks or has low self-esteem... her partner will probably suck.

If she's awesome and has high self-esteem... her partner will probably be an amazing person.

Also, women are attracted to personality first... and accomplishments second.

So, if there's a guy who has "confidence, status, financial stability, social skills, and charisma" but he has a terrible personality or doesn't treat her well, if Sarah has high self-esteem and is good at sorting, she's going to throw him in the trash pile where he belongs.