Is it Just Me or Has the Actualized.org Active User Community Shrunk of Late?

[Ulax]

Just now, Elliott said:

You're the only one that hates you

Flattered you think everyone loves me  

[Carl-Richard]

5 minutes ago, Ulax said:

Glad you see us PUAers as special  

Autism is a spectrum, so you're not special 😠

Edited 16 hours ago by Carl-Richard

[Elliott]

1 minute ago, Ulax said:

Flattered you think everyone loves me  

We do....

[PolyPeter]

survival mode in hardcore mode (maybe?)

if you are too busy surviving your own mind, maybe it is difficult to have time for a forum

 

[Ulax]

Just now, Elliott said:

We do....

Thanks ❤️

[LordFall]

1 hour ago, Carl-Richard said:

PrOve mE wRoNG.

Social dynamics are taught in corporate environments, fortune 500 companies hire self-development coaches all the time for private trainings for their staff. RSD Owen did this himself

 

[Carl-Richard]

1 minute ago, LordFall said:

Social dynamics are taught in corporate environments, fortune 500 companies hire self-development coaches all the time for private trainings for their staff. RSD Owen did this himself

In order to get women? You're leaving out the entire aim of PUA and equivocating it with the methods.

[Elliott]

Just now, Carl-Richard said:

In order to get women? You're leaving out the entire aim of PUA and equivocating it with the methods.

Corporate market is big for prostitution

[LordFall]

9 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

In order to get women? You're leaving out the entire aim of PUA and equivocating it with the methods.

No I'm just getting to the root of the utility in teaching and learning social dynamics and overall game. You can use it to get laid and fuck many women, you can use it to find a high quality girlfriend, you can use it to build social networks and you can use it for career advancement as well. 

[Sugarcoat]

2 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

Of course many women think that is creepy.

Its also an aspect of normative mindset to find it creepy

[Carl-Richard]

2 hours ago, LordFall said:

No I'm just getting to the root of the utility in teaching and learning social dynamics and overall game. You can use it to get laid and fuck many women, you can use it to find a high quality girlfriend, you can use it to build social networks and you can use it for career advancement as well. 

Well, I'm specifically talking about people trying to get better at talking to women (and get laid), like the wikipedia definition of PUA. But sure, I can also appreciate being reductive here: I would also reduce all of PUA down to "social dynamics", but procedurally acquired ones.

I one time worked as a research assistant analyzing the behavior of people teaching each other to tie knots. There were naturally different strategies for both teaching and learning to tie the knots, but what struck me was one pair where the person learning the knots had this incredibly complicated mentalistic way of remembering sequences (like they were looking into their minds eye, looking upwards, trying to create rules for memorizing the steps; and maybe not coincidentally, they were taking a long fucking time trying to learn it), meanwhile I was like shouting to myself internally "that's not how you learn how to tie a knot, just do it, just practice it, repetition, grind it out". I get the same feeling when I look at PUA "approaches" to socializing. Just do it, don't think so much about it.

Sure, there are people that need that approach, i.e. they approach social situations mentalistically, be it because they lack the ability to read social cues, or they're just extremely mentalistic (which I again in both cases would definitionally describe as autism, granted again it's a spectrum and I'm not saying you're a non-verbal helmet-wearing fella that needs padded walls and professional care).

Hell even I have had "autistic" insights about social situations myself that probably helped me for the better. But those arose naturally through experience. And that's part of my point: you can have mentalistic insights as you experience things, and that's part of getting the experience. And then they will be grounded in your experience and a richness of context. Meanwhile if you try to apply mentalistic concepts that you learned abstractly, you will many times not unlikely come off as a creep. Because you're not being sensitive to context and subtleties of the situation: you're not being natural.

Edited 13 hours ago by Carl-Richard

[Carl-Richard]

11 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Its also an aspect of normative mindset to find it creepy

Come again? (Come)

I came again^ he-he

[LordFall]

@Carl-Richard Sure I would consider it a very advanced way to break down social dynamics for many purposes. The pick up artistry part I guess refers specifically to men learning to pickup women but social dynamics and what is referred to as game can be applied for many purposes to great effect as I've outlined. 

[Sugarcoat]

16 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

he-he

intrinsic joy 

16 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

I 

being 

16 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Come again? (Come)

meaning^2 

16 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

came

Intrinsic joy = being x meaning^2

 

 

(you inspired me)

 

Now I crossed line, channeled Mellowmarsch energy 😭 

Edited 15 hours ago by Sugarcoat

[Carl-Richard]

1 hour ago, LordFall said:

@Carl-Richard Sure I would consider it a very advanced way to break down social dynamics for many purposes. The pick up artistry part I guess refers specifically to men learning to pickup women but social dynamics and what is referred to as game can be applied for many purposes to great effect as I've outlined. 

Yeah well, my gripe with PUA is using it to enter a field that values sensitivity to context, "naturalness", i.e. talking to people in a casual(!) format, especially to women who are hypersensitive to context and subtleties like naturalness. Using it to "game" your way into some field where game is the game (business, professional settings), that's no problem. 

Although of course, I could make the case that simply having an authentic aura can do much for you there as well, but it's of course a different league where thinking is highly central to getting ahead. I again compare casual socializing to learning to tie knots or playing musical instruments. It's centrally procedural.

Now, if you approach talking to women like a business interaction, like acquiring assets (your aim is 'quantities' of women), then sure, maybe in a club environment or other high-volume, low-time-horizon environments (where acting like a creep is not as taxing as you can quickly recast the net), that could help. But for people who just want to interact and be with women (or a woman), generally, I say just 'do' it.

Edited 14 hours ago by Carl-Richard

[Carl-Richard]

21 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

intrinsic joy 

being 

meaning^2 

Intrinsic joy = being x meaning^2

 

 

(you inspired me)

 

Now I crossed line, channeled Mellowmarsch energy 😭 

WHAT THE FUCK

I LIKE IT

(FUCK)

Fuck again^  ._. 🤣

[Sugarcoat]

9 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

WHAT THE FUCK

I LIKE IT

(FUCK)

Fuck again^  ._. 🤣

You triggered it

[Carl-Richard]

@Sugarcoat Yeesus I re-read that again and now I saw more of the meaning. That's impressively wooooo-woo (don't re-interpret the O's :>).

[Sugarcoat]

6 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

@Sugarcoat Yeesus I re-read that again and now I saw more of the meaning. That's impressively wooooo-woo (don't re-interpret the O's :>).

Funny, if you read it from top to bottom, I didnt even think about that, just thought of it row for row 

(wrote this without intention too...)

Edited 14 hours ago by Sugarcoat

[Elliott]

See guys, girls like autism