Men are not allowed to be victims in the matriarchy

[AION]

To take a break isn't contingent on how long the relationship is but on your inner state and if one needs time for emotional processing. Sometimes it is better to move on as quickly as possible since some people are not worth it. One must be inclined to take agency to get out of victim mode whatever that means. 

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[KosmicGeng]

15 minutes ago, AION said:

that is true.. men have no inherent value 

That is not true, it's only a perspective of post-modern role-reversal and self-defensive pattern, often a DARVO pattern, deny attack reverse offender, you can also play vulnerbale and accept that, I wrote with feminists who write big in their profile "fuck the patriarchy" and just go about how I am not one of them only to validate their worldview, and be vegan and safe the world, often times these women are nutcases and stuck in ethnocentric forms of post-modernism, men inherently have more value then women, but I know the frame and emotional pain to well, I often also misperceive, due to the social dynamics that this underbelly or underheart I often call it creates, but imo men have more value then women. 

You can also play along, but often times I found my self-esteem to be dwindling, and it just causes a beta or cuckhold perspective, where I thought it does not feel well to be emmasculated, and getting to a more genuient masculine energy, can also be an issue among men in my experience, it's an issue for e.g orange men groups turned red quickly to get women, and they blew-up the whole group and got it banned, when I was in an integral men group from integral itself, it felt very good to share experiences, and typical men problems and go for solutions, and solve more from the root, but I find the women sort of pushed the men away, and it's very exhausting for a man to hold such a group. That is why I watch a lot of Orion Taraban, a trained psychologist that can help with men problems is better than for e.g a spiritual guy leading a man group, as often the shadow of the post-modern stage creeps up, I noticed this when I did a lot of calculus recently, and there was just this underbelly of envy of men, of knowledge = power, so I demonize you like a women subtely and just downplay your problems in order for me to feel better, if a man regresses to often into this stage which I find with older men at 40+ can easily happen, (Leo mostly excluded I see smth. else often that also touches some points in my familiy and with the ex), so often your left to your own devices, with A.I or if your lucky one good friend, that can help you. 

After my break-up which was very odd I immeditately jumped into dating, as the pool just opened randomly and the relationship was already over, it was very hostile as she was not very supportive and just out for my success like a fake chief, just judging you on behaviour while excusing their own behaviour and especially past behaviour and hiding a lot of baggage, idk it's difficult, and she already broke-up before, but wanted to meet and I sort of followed my intuition and what I could source from Deida, but in the end it turned out she is a fake luciferic type of soul, it was a mistake to be that passionate in a relationship. 

I will never date and be out with a women who is typical to this and runs an achievment drive, it's close to impossible to get the judgement function out of her, and it breaks the process towards exellence and brilliance, and often such people feel diminished in the light of success of this different type of drive, and act like isolated machos or feminine version of a macho, where she just inflats her self-esteem and prides herself in all of the glory the deficieny needs and regressive post-modern view has created idk. 

My take and perspective, but imo men have more value then women, just different types of value women have more value in certain areas, so do men, but overall I'd say men have more value to society then women, if it's not framed in terms of reproduction, etc. 

[something_else]

Just now, AION said:

To take a break isn't contingent on how long the relationship is but on your inner state and if one needs time for emotional processing.

The longer the relationship is, the more emotional processing becomes necessary when it ends. Having a strong inner state does not mean you can ignore these emotions and get on with your life, that is avoidance. A strong inner state means that you are secure enough to face and process those negative emotions instead of running away or distracting yourself.

3 months isn't a long relationship, I agree. I don't think you need to take a break or anything. Though I will say that the initial post here (and the fact you made it at all) does give the impression that you at felt at least some resentment or other negative emotions which you shared to get them off your chest. Perhaps this means you could benefit from some reflection. Maybe that's not the case, I don't know you. That's just my impression.

 

[AION]

@KosmicGeng I think spiral dynamic stage has to do with it but also the age of the women, after a certain age women think they all deserve the best men. She was 27 and somehow they think they deserve the complete package for some reason. I think it is because of the pink pill videos these women are watching. For me it is much better to date early 20 girls they don't have this relational and emotional baggage that makes them overcompensate and think they deserve the best men while they are not the best woman they can be. you are right to filter these women out early or have an according strategy. She was using sex as a pressure tool against me and after a while it just became too annoying treating me with stick and carrot all the time. Probably my biggest mistake was not to set the frame very early on because I liked her and I let some of her behavior off. You need to coax them very early on.

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[Lyubov]

58 minutes ago, AION said:

@KosmicGeng that is true.. men have no inherent value 

This is why you’re always making threads in here where you’re clearly feeling bad about something. Your beliefs are poisoning you. 

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[something_else]

5 minutes ago, AION said:

@KosmicGeng I think spiral dynamic stage has to do with it but also the age of the women, after a certain age women think they all deserve the best men. She was 27 and somehow they think they deserve the complete package for some reason. I think it is because of the pink pill videos these women are watching. For me it is much better to date early 20 girls they don't have this relational and emotional baggage that makes them overcompensate and think they deserve the best men while they are not the best woman they can be. you are right to filter these women out early or have an according strategy. She was using sex as a pressure tool against me and after a while it just became too annoying treating me with stick and carrot all the time. Probably my biggest mistake was not to set the frame very early on because I liked her and I let some of her behavior off. You need to coax them very early on.

Why do you think you deserve the best women?

[KosmicGeng]

10 minutes ago, AION said:

I think spiral dynamic stage has to do with it but also the age of the women, after a certain age women think they all deserve the best men. She was 27 and somehow they think they deserve the complete package for some reason. I think it is because of the pink pill videos these women are watching. For me it is much better to date early 20 girls they don't have this relational and emotional baggage that makes them overcompensate and think they deserve the best men while they are not the best woman they can be. you are right to filter these women out early or have an according strategy. She was using sex as a pressure tool against me and after a while it just became too annoying treating me with stick and carrot all the time. Probably my biggest mistake was not to set the frame very early on because I liked her and I let some of her behavior off. You need to coax them very early on.

From what I read in Chateu Heartise this is the exact age where the self-esteem of most women is the most inflated, as her fertility also peaks around this point and they can receive children without any type of complications, if you're in the top 10% of men, you can easily get the most fertile and healthy women around this time, dating women in their early 20's I have little experience, I peaked quite high via potential and was somewhere in the mid-range of top 20-30% of men, on some days I eventually peaked the top 10%, by just potential not actual happenstance, as I worked as an a.i architect as a working student and with exercising and lifting again, I quickly pulled a decent amount of women, but also repelled a couple. 

Sex is the easiest way a women will bait you, I had the exact same experience with the ex, she always called me when she was horny and lonely, and I do very well alone, at times I just cry out my depression or do some exercising or distract myself with something, but she practically abused these time slots for "quality time" relationship, but we had very little in common, she did not really teach anything, and imo this is the worst part of women even if they seem integral or more aware, they are very bad at giving any type of educational reference experience, you're just pushed into the superior man, the man of 0, or you're just left in this "beta-zone" I dislike the term beta, but I use it here to make a point, about being just normal, as I see most of this to some degree as normal. Not going out, not being the be all end all from the get go, I am not very good at coaxing, I am very blunt, which pushes my attraction range to women where I later find out, they enjoy the strong dominance side of things, I also am sort of prone towards enjoying hot and deluded women, who're just very wild in their feminine, but it's not properly tamed, and my core character has been defined by post-modern and at best integral edges, till I pushed ahead, it's all good as long as I lead a girl. 

It's also good for a man to have some type of impossible belief about himself, that he is the best or the greatest and leverage that, but to put away violence, I was forced into some dark places, due to the extremeties of how I perceive dating, being naturally very atheltic, but injured for life, so a lot of nefarious tendencies I see in others, where I can clearly tell if this goes on, especially also in men, who're deeply insecure about their body, generally I at times tend to attract them, I have problems and at times very dark thoughts about my body, but I am not insecure about my body for example. 

Women in their 20's generally have less bagage the real reality hits them when they turn 30 often, as the rose-red tainted glasses come off, often times they played their chances with the rising star, or they betrayed and cheated, because they think they deserve more, some of women not many, but many who're in this modern independent women type of hype, and yes I am prone to dating such women, and being in their "weaves", so to speak as I had to deal with a lot of feminine manipulation, that just somewhat get's out of our family now, but I doubt it will happen till my mother finally dies, as she is from her typology a master manipulator, and quiet satanic, even if she is a good human to some degree, the level of manipulation based on body language is surreal, but she also has been abused by men, who lack boundaries and see women just as tools not even toys, but just tools for satisfaction etc. 

If you have more options it's easy to be aloof and go to the next women, till you find someone that actually matches, most women in their 20's and most likely 30's are not relationship material anymore, the whole nuclear family thing, seems quite fucked, you really need to be more advanced and have family support, as most are stuck in the underbelly of modern/ethnocentric perceptions, there are some solutions I see, but I also have to solve this scenario that I am in, eventually this is insightful for you. 

[Sugarcoat]

8 hours ago, Elliott said:

Yoga

If these guys would go there, instead of finding release through the practices they'd be looking for release through the hot yoga women