Lindsay Clancy -Mother of 3 kills her kids during psychotic episode

[Joshe]

Schizophrenic patients 

[Joshe]

1 hour ago, Emerald said:

I watched an expert testifying earlier today who was talking about why he didn't suspect that she was experiencing a command hallucination.

And he said that, with people who experience command hallucinations there's a tendency to use coping mechanisms to drown them out... like praying. And Lindsay Clancy wasn't doing that.

There's also a tendency for people with these hallucinations to experience them periodically. And it would be uncommon for someone to experience them once and then not again.

He also found it unlikely because she had said that she was experiencing these hallucinations all the way throughout the duration of the 20 minutes, with the external voice repeating the same phrase over and over the entire time.

He may have brought up another point, as well. But those are the ones that I'm recalling.

But he was suspecting that she was committing suicide and filicide... killing her children out of love and because she didn't want to be separated from them when she commits suicide. And I don't know about that explanation.

To me, it seems like that's a reach to assume her motive was to kill her children out of love.

But in that case, she'd still be criminally responsible for their deaths. So, he was in favor of her being seen as guilty. But his reasoning about the motive seemed very speculative.

I just wonder if a certain combo of meds could have produced her particular claimed psychosis. I'm just trying to steelman her position. Either way though, that evidence you highlighted earlier regarding the voices only appearing during that 20 minute window is too suspicious for me to not lean towards lucid intent. Given that, I'm not sure if there's any evidence at all that could be presented to make me lean the other way. It's just too suspicious. 

Edited 36 minutes ago by Joshe

[Joshe]

But then again, if it was premeditated, you would think she would have faked command hallucinations more than just in that 20-min window. 

Most people don't drop a con before it's been bought. If it was planned, she probably would have looked into what the standard pattern looked like, you'd think. So, this is something to consider.

Why didn't she just fake the commands later so that they would be consistent with the pattern? 

Also, I'm assuming there was no digital evidence hinting at premeditation. If no, that cuts further in her favor.

I'd like to know what her knowledge of schizophrenia was prior to the act.

Edited 27 minutes ago by Joshe

[Joshe]

Holy shit:

This is why we need to know her level of cognitive sophistication or whatever. It could answer if she's even capable of this fake. This seems like it would be a pretty sophisticated fake, so if she or her husband isn't cognitively capable of that, then I'd learn her way, I think. 

Edited 14 minutes ago by Joshe