Where have you fucked a girl?

[Jirh]

@Inliytened1 That's not how it works. Women are not like candy bars, sold at the grocery store.

You don't approach anything that has breasts. You should find her at least somewhat attractive before you make the approach, and ideally she should send you some signal. Otherwise, what's the point? Just approaching everyone randomly like a raging maniac?

Edited 8 hours ago by Jirh

[Inliytened1]

Just now, Jirh said:

@Inliytened1 That's not how it works. Women are not sold at the grocery store.

You don't approach anything that has breasts. You should find her attractive before you make the approach, and ideally she should send you some signal. Otherwise, what's the point? Just approaching everyone randomly like a raging maniac?

Yes I said, you will pick up the cue from her, if she slips you the eye, make the move. What do you have to lose? Some apples?

[Inliytened1]

OH  I forgot to say, check the ring finger first, otherwise it's a fast shutdown. 

[Rishabh R]

@Inliytened1 Ok 😂. 

[KosmicGeng]

I read some Maxims on game yesterday, I have some issues with my internet provider, there are some issues generally on the book, as they provider mystery game method as a core tenant, but 70-60% gives you the perspective and issue on the core paradigm that modern women run, especially if you're spiral dynamics aware, and can make distinctions, or just have an intuition. I don't really like the distinction between alpha and beta, as we have way more and the version of the book is from 2007, but copyrighted 2019 version and most likely edited, the book is very dense and intellectual and written for the modern paradigm, but some maxims and principles hit the integral stage, from a more stoic perspective and ownership, especially. I still have some issues, I can post the book if asked for and compress, but read at your own risk, I had evolutionary algorithms, and from the new information, if you yearned to be on top of game, there is new information and it does not include conscious relationship, as most of this will be framed as "beta", due to the issues of survival, but it shows some points about dark psychology or just attraction psychology from a stage red-orange-yellow types of autonomey, and sovereinigty, especially for e.g the advantages a man can play.

There is a part II, I don't have my hands on I will copy some post some maxims, that are more universal and re-writte them from my perspective and experience it's not to much, but I put some effort in, and I am convinced some of these values are and I will most likely read or buy part II, after I dissected parts of it with A.I to feed it to the new neural network I am building, as I just come out of that field, not with the greatest depth of experience, but I still moved into it and gained experience, as it would have the exact issues of the time we're facing, I do my best to post some principles that are timeless, and hit the integral needle. I focus on game and my own experience, with what I agree with! I extend some principles with the meditative work I did, and consciousness work. Take them more loosely and reflect on own experience. 

Chateau Heartise

• Maxim #1: Game is learned charisma, streamlined seduction. Game is as sincere as its practitioner’s intent.
• Maxim #1a: Women desire men of better quality than themselves.
• Maxim #1(a)(2): Men want to be turned on by their women. Women want to be proud of their men, feel listend to and feminine, experience a level of transcendence -> GOD, or more simply G-Point orgasms, not only love, love is fleeting.

 

• Maxim #2: All successful seductions are adversarial in nature, or playful in nature & polarizing to the degree of Yin & Yang energy.
• Maxim #3: Bang/Have sex first first, befriend later -> if you value quality time this will become obvious, women will extract a lot of attention.
• Maxim #3: In the state of nature, men are expendable & at the same time women are perishiable (orange/red frame) -> issues of profit based capitalism
• Maxim #3: Some human beings are worth more than others, despite their equality under the law -> everyone pre-selects based on percived value

 

• Maxim #3: Whenever an attractive girl tells you she hates assholes, or describes her experience in the past dating assholes and claims to avoid them now, or recites a laundry list of asshole-y things guys do that she disapproves of, you can bet your weight in gold bricks that she needs you to be an asshole to her. (Unfortunately true, till a true integral paradigm has been studied by a women, which is beyond rare)
• Maxim #4: Trust no one missing a sense of humor.
• Maxim #5: Charisma before silence, silence before self-incrimination. -> I face self-incrimination imo, anti-game is not as bad as they present in the book, some counter-principles work, but it turns to a more hostile polarity, and makes the relationship unbearable.

 

• Maxim #6: Never Make It Easy For A Girl
• Maxim #7: Your girl will thank you for your steadfast devotion to your belief in yourself.
• Maxim #7: The greater the age difference between the older man and the younger woman, the tighter his game will need to be, barring compensatory attributes, or the degree of consciousness of both, but it can easily turn into an excuse for her to experience the priviledges of her perceived evolutionary advantage, be careful!
• Maxim #7: The sweeter and more innocent a girl seems, the greater the likelihood she has been in a gangbang.-> Does not make a quality women.Corrollary/Folgesatz: Always assume she is a w*ore, It helps the legs out from under the pedestal you will be tempted to put her on, and it is more often true than not true.Corrolary/Reframe: Assume she is a sexual being, kicks-out the toxic modernity frame for frame-control, and focus on being man of 0 and let go of purpose and have zen-like presence, hence the value superiority and differences, go and allows for PURE GAME. 
   
• Maxim #8: Marriage is a social mechanism designed to exchange sex for indentured servitude.
• Corrollary -> Marriage is a part of social bonding experience, and part of human evolution, it has advantages for survival, but at a high level of consciousness it has to include proper communion, so most modern or middle vision-logic, does not apply, it's mostly about the level of competence to be in a relationship, which discludes a being relationship, and construct aware relationship, if you can taste stage turqouise daily, and sense the awe & wonder of life. 

 

• Maxim #10: It’s pussy wetness uber alles. Just jup at times point.
• Maxim #11: The greater the sexual market value disparity between the husband and his depreciating wife, and the more kids they have, the more life the husband has sucked out of him. (True for stage orange and modernity) 
• Maxim #12: If you are comfortable with your game being splashed across a JumboTron for thousands of people to read, then you are doing it right. Maxim #12: The cumulative experience with hot women imbues the womanizer with a genuinely aloof aura that attracts even more women to him.

• Corollary to Maxim #12: If you don’t have an adequate amount of aloofnessinducing experience with hot women, act like you do.
• Maxim #13: When in doubt, game.
• Maxim #13: Calling a girl out on her lie accomplishes nothing.
• Maxim #13: When the love is gone, women can be as cold as if they had never known you.
• Maxim #15: Female cultural equality = male dating inequality. Female cultural inequality = male dating equality. You cannot have both. So sayeth human nature, issue of post-modernism, contradictory performative equality. At integral you see both and move beyond that with more warm cognitive empathy and understanding, but that takes time, and you have to defy the previous level of evolution on a social and value level, the core issue still is women will most likely crave the all ready made man.
• Corrollary -> Do some conscious relationship courses to not only learn game, but see what it takes to have a conscious relationship and what's in you, I hope to rework that in the next 2-3 years given time longer or not. 

 

• Maxim #17: Be narcissistic. There is no greater divergence than that between a woman’s stated disapproval of male narcissism and the rapidity with which she jumps into bed with a male narcissist. I would reframe it as learn to be more alpha, so the Narc is not neccessary, be deeply involved with life and the way of superior man, have values and integrity, but go to the narc for a little negging and playfulness to whatever degree that is present with you. 

 

• Maxim #18: The two fundamental propositions upon which all game theory rests are male choosiness and female abundance. All alpha males have these two mindsets in common. It is elitist selection partially at stage purple, the dynamic shifts up & down the spiral depending on depth of human race.
• Maxim #19: The alpha male thinks and acts more like a woman than a man in matters of seduction. He understands his adversary’s psychology, and uses it to shatter her defenses.

Maxim #19: Never take a woman’s word; a woman’s actions are the best interpreters of her thought.
Maxim #19: Making a woman feel a little emotional pain will reward you a thousandfold in returned physical pleasure.
Maxim #20: Do not ever reveal the details of your finances to a girlfriend or wife. Avoid getting joint accounts. As a man, you must draw a line in the sand separating money from love. If she balks, dump her. I did this and she just turned w*ore it's an issue as I am very good with finances generally and management and investment, so I fall prey to the dark psychology of women and abuse, I chatted with some investor and financially independent women the dynamic is different as there is more knowledge, hence more awareness. I am still convinced joint accounts can be good if they have a purpose and survival does not hit to hard, but it will become an issue if the women is not integral or tealish enough to invest into something like this, see later the point about hamsters.

Maxim #20: The gina tingle is the principal moral code to which women subscribe. All other moral considerations pale in comparison.

Maxim #20: The meaner a girl is with you, the likelier she wants to fuck you. Corollary to maxim #20: The nicer a girl is with you, the likelier she thinks you’d make a great eunuch friend, I face the latter, but a conscious man will still have sex with her, which is quiet evil, we can make Jupiter Trine Uranus and I still get laid, not that often, but I am convinced that if a women is not conscious she is influenced by planetary events, especially with the new-age stuff, the core point of being spiritual is to use the good parts of it, and dismiss the effects of it entirely, so if you're affected you deal with the energy, and might have a reason why you went into the energy for e.g.

Maxim #21: Betas pay, alphas split, super alphas profit. Sigmas lead, Super-Sigmas let themselves be enjoyed, and let the women do the work willingly, not unwillingly.

Maxim #21: Never talk about getting into a relationship even if the girl says that’s what she’s looking for.

Maxim #22: A woman with inflated self-esteem is a woman who will erroneously believe she is too good to date men normally in her league, unless steps are taken to bring her self-esteem back in line with reality, Corollary to Maxim #22: A dating market lopsided with unrealistically high selfesteem women will shrink the pool of men available to date and marry, with the consequence that women remain single longer than they would otherwise, it's a self-inflicted issue by the social dynamics of women, where modern prudence should outweigh, the stage redness of women, as huntress, in endurance, to betray, conquer other men, and betray, worse then even a snake, as you recognize that behaviour, some don't, but most do in my experience, they just don't know it's part of evolution, and now we have evolution encoded in computers/bots, so it will become very interesting how advanced these algorithms are, the core issue of evolution 12 volumes of darwin on love are missing for more conscious & holistic framework, or deeper perspective on survival from the pioneer. 

Corollary to the corollary to Maxim #22: The most effective measure society can undertake to increase the incidence of marriage and the quality of married life is to stop artificially propping up women’s self-esteems. (Close to impossible) some level of propping-up is fine, if it's done more delibaretly, and she is not a nutcase. Or just f* the nutcase and drop her, it's better to self-persevere, and protect the "sacred masculinity" this discludes violence, but be careful of emotional damage from women, most should be in prision for what they do evolutionary. 

Maxim #23: The defensive crouch is where pussy tingles are born

Maxim #23: Limited options = looser standards <=> reality <=> not looser standards <=> upping game = breaking own limits = create higher standards, be aloof about it, test, review, integrate. Don't only reinforce like a bot, make it heartfelt and change that level of aura. 
Corrollary: Attune to abundance frequency or a state of being in the now! Like Jesus, but don't flip tables all day, eventually some is fine...

Maxim #25: Withholding sex is the tactic of a woman who has already lost. It is mutually assured destruction.
Maxim #26: Women secretly hope that you won’t rob them of the opportunity to make themselves vulnerable before your alpha inscrutability <=> Most love you for being deep and masculine & authentic.

Maxim #26: If a woman says the word “sex” in conversation with you or about you, no matter the context, it means she’s thinking about having sex with you. Maxim #27: You have to make marriage an attractive alternative for MEN — not women — if you want the institution to thrive.

There is more I leave it at that. There is a part II of the book, and I presume eventually a part III in a couple of years or even in writting, I did not dig through the book, I have some other issues, as also society is becoming more conscious, the whole issue is an issue of interdependence and hieroarchy I term I read, I can't find properly with google/a.i, but they approve the prefix added, as a play of words and neologism, not all neologism are created equally, a hieroarchy can create communion for a more sacred relationship with the right women, I had some conscious women go after me, but they are to conscious which makes the dynamic difficult. 

I won't post the exact point of hamsters, but IIRC a women will turn hamster as a hoarding principle of being a gatherer in the human realm, and she will resort to prudence and do her best to self-persevere her perception of sefl-respect, and maintain ressources, self-inflate and become fat or very skinny at worst <=>  lack of care of being&doing in body, but there is a core issue of the shadow not being worked out, as men will gravitate to physical beauty, it can be wise, but also abusive, in the book they will play the higher consciousness insights, but lack the integration in behaviour, same goes for men, they can hamster & hoard to, which makes them look like insecure betas in most eyes, as there is a lack of generosity in both, which is a high virtue a human can achieve. 

Another maxim is never listen to the advice and tipps on women, as they just focus on the made man, or the alpha, omega, or whoever has what she desires, that can even be beta males, sigma males, or otroverts? I a new term I am thinking about, as it would technically be the OMEGA to me, hence moving to GOD, but GOD does not care absolutely not, if you ever hit that state you'd realize it's impossible to act from this space your just frozen into GOD, like a women giving birth to a child of GOD, not all births are equal... 

Anyhow I mix some esotertic stuff in, the groups were quiet hostile, as I enjoy some "new-age" or nerdy stuff, but that makes it prone for nutcases to attack, most of these women are not relationship material, and you have to run minimum TIER II or TIER III game or stick to TIER I principles that have worked for one or you over a period of time, or are a perennial principles, which includes more of an infinite perspective... 

Edited 6 hours ago by KosmicGeng

[KosmicGeng]

Before consuming this book I focused on more functional and conscious books in order to integrate that, but the status game is still to real mostly, but women will always go for perceived value in a man, and kick-out the beta perspective if she is interested in you. That is a another principle of the book, I wrote it from my pov, not literally. 

Some of the text above is just written literally as it's in the books, but figure out the stuff yourself please! I am not done maturing in that area, working out the polarity of an overdomineering, post-modern feminine framework, is partially hell. It just shows the low quality aspects of a women, and her lack of willingless to do solo-work, most who do solo-work become some Yoga-Goddess, but then lack the knowledge to integrate the higher & lower survival dynamics. 

Edited 6 hours ago by KosmicGeng

[Mellowmarsh]

1 hour ago, Inliytened1 said:

@Mellowmarsh Ok so we're gonna have to compromise on the car.  I will still put the top down but we might not be able to go full Bugatti.  Is a vette acceptable?

 

Yeah, I don’t mind. As long as we can get the motor running, that’s all that matters. 

[Inliytened1]

2 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Yeah, I don’t mind. As long as we can get the motor running, that’s all that matters. 

Oh yeah this baby hums.  You will like the sound.  I also like the sound of a throaty mustang...So, I may take you in that .

Edited 4 hours ago by Inliytened1

[Ulax]

[Mellowmarsh]

1 hour ago, Inliytened1 said:

Oh yeah this baby hums.  You will like the sound.  I also like the sound of a throaty mustang...So, I may take you in that .

Sounds great, heading on the “ high way” top down. 

[LordFall]

7 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said:

This is why I asked.  It seems ridiculous to me too.  Like who would do this lol.  

 

7 hours ago, Jirh said:

I think plenty of guys here have. I have also tried it. It hasn't worked well for me so far.

 

7 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Must be super awkward for the women approached.

 

7 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

You should not be counting them you should just be going up to her in the grocery store.

Every day you're in the grocery store.  I don't know what that adds up to, but it's a lot more than 60.

 

Counting your approach is important so you can know if it works or not and change your style if it's not producing the results you want. Building systems for both your dating life, career and life as a whole is very important so you can scale and get results that the average man can only dream of. 

Cold approach is a hard skill to learn but it works. I've had sex multiple times with women I knew less than a few hours from it.

It's sometimes awkward, sometimes boring and sometimes you hook them into you and start a romance or a sexcape right from the street, the mall or the club that you met them at. 

One of the wildest cold approach stories I have is during Covid I was living in Harbourfront Toronto and nothing was open so me and my roommates would walk around throughout the summer and well cold approach girls mostly. One day we were bored at this big square called Dundas Square in the city and we were about to walk back home and he had the energy to approach one more girl.

It worked and he came back and introduced her to me and we went to the liquor store and got some wine and drank it walking back home with this new friend we got. As we walked back to our place we went back to my room and he started making out with her and I was sitting down and I almost left to give them some privacy but she was grabbing my leg too so I made out with her as well.

Lead to both of taking turns fucking her while listening to some good music and drinking some truly foul wine. The one you get for like $15 that comes in a crate not a bottle. All from cold approaching a girl bored in downtown. 

Edited 1 hour ago by LordFall

[Inliytened1]

13 minutes ago, LordFall said:

 

 

 

Counting your approach is important so you can know if it works or not and change your style if it's not producing the results you want. Building systems for both your dating life, career and life as a whole is very important so you can scale and get results that the average man can only dream of. 

Cold approach is a hard skill to learn but it works. I've had sex multiple times with women I knew less than a few hours from it.

It's sometimes awkward, sometimes boring and sometimes you hook them into you and start a romance or a sexcape right from the street, the mall or the club that you met them at. 

One of the wildest cold approach stories I have is during Covid I was living in Harbourfront Toronto and nothing was open so me and my roommates would walk around throughout the summer and well cold approach girls mostly. One day we were bored at this big square called Dundas Square in the city and we were about to walk back home and he had the energy to approach one more girl.

It worked and he came back and introduced her to me and we went to the liquor store and got some wine and drank it walking back home with this new friend we got. As we walked back to our place we went back to my room and he started making out with her and I was sitting down and I almost left to give them some privacy but she was grabbing my leg too so I made out with her as well.

Lead to both of taking turns fucking her while listening to some good music and drinking some truly foul wine. The one you get for like $15 that comes in a crate not a bottle. All from cold approaching a girl bored in downtown. 

I'm trying to make it more natural for him.  It has to be natural  If you are making a science out of it you run the risk of shooting yourself in the foot with overthinking everything.  Just let it be natural.  That's why i said don't keep track.  When you see her, you talk to her if you feel it.

[LordFall]

8 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

I'm trying to make it more natural for him.  It has to be natural  If you are making a science out of it you run the risk of shooting yourself in the foot with overthinking everything.  Just let it be natural.  That's why i said don't keep track.  When you see her, you talk to her if you feel it.

Natural doesn't work for non naturals otherwise they'd get laid well naturally.

You need a simple system to track your efforts and growth so you can guarantee results over time. Overthinking happens when you think too much before the approach so you never get into the flow of it.

A system is made to debrief only after approaches to know what went right or wrong. 

I talk more about it in this video here

 

Edited 51 minutes ago by LordFall

[Inliytened1]

2 minutes ago, LordFall said:

Natural doesn't work for non naturals otherwise they'd get laid naturally.

You need a simple system to track your efforts and growth so you can guarantee results over time. Overthinking happens when you think too much before the approach so you never get into the flow of it.

A system is made to debrief only after approaches to know what went right or wrong. 

I talk more about it in this video here

 

@LordFall The great voice of reason.  

[Inliytened1]

12 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

@LordFall The great voice of reason.  

Ok so let's say we have a balance.  Some natrual, and some science.  Let's combine both our theories.  Then you can make it work!

Because you need both elements.  I did it with just the one, but i almost got HIV.   I was out of control.  So now, I'm going to be more scientific about the whole thing.

[Inliytened1]

26 minutes ago, LordFall said:

Natural doesn't work for non naturals otherwise they'd get laid well naturally.

You need a simple system to track your efforts and growth so you can guarantee results over time. Overthinking happens when you think too much before the approach so you never get into the flow of it.

A system is made to debrief only after approaches to know what went right or wrong. 

I talk more about it in this video here

 

Nice to see you in person!

[LordFall]

8 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

It’s been a pleasure talking to you. I adore the male of the human species, I personally think they are magnificent beasts to look at. I love men. I adore them all. It’s my biological programming to love you. Like I love the baby that pops out of my body, I love the seeder who planted it, and I love kittens and puppies, snails and worms, and all sorts of creepy crawlers and all that kind of stuff, it’s all love. Yum yum. 🤫

Thank you for your existence and energy! Femininity is always appreciated. 

 

6 hours ago, KosmicGeng said:

Maxim #23: The defensive crouch is where pussy tingles are born

I think Socrates also said this one or maybe it was Aristotle, hard to be sure.