Is True Manifestation Possible?

[AtmanIsBrahman]

I want to get your opinions on this. Can you truly manifest or is it just a psychological gimmick? 

There are two types of manifestation. One is that you create an image of something in your mind and motivate yourself to pursue it. But this isn’t real manifestation because it’s your actions in the objective world that produce a result. For example, visualizing yourself getting hot women and then going out to talk to them.

The second type is more interesting — manifesting as a spiritual endeavor. This means that you manifest something without actually taking action. For example, you think “I want to grow taller as an adult” and then that actually happens. This would be true manifestation because there is no objective-world action that would lead to the outcome.

I have no direct experience of this type of manifestation, but my intuition tells me it might be possible. If what Leo says about reality being imaginary is true, it must be possible to do these kinds of things, even if it requires a way higher state of consciousness.

Do you have any direct experience of “true” manifestation? If you do, explain what it was and your epistemology behind it, i.e. why it wasn’t an action in the real world that produced the result.

[thierry]

In my experience, truth seems untouched by human manipulation. That doesn’t mean you can’t work hard toward something or pursue what you want, but I don’t believe there are any real shortcuts unless you cheat. And even then, cheating doesn’t truly work, because reality eventually reveals what is real.

 

[kavaris]

2 hours ago, AtmanIsBrahman said:

I want to get your opinions on this. Can you truly manifest or is it just a psychological gimmick? 

You ask alot. You ask for us to describe manifesting, and what it may possibly mean, through the infinite space of whats possible ~ And it includes many things. Will your manifesting be the same, explanation-wise, as well as actually to someone elses? Iuno. Theres many questions you pose by asking such a question, that from your perspective should be validated and considered on your own time. Theres more roads to choose, a weighted bundle of possible options, many more than just the ones youve put forward; For, even those have many more questions you would have to face. You think too lightly of it as an idea ("idea" being, your internal expressions made manifest)

Edited Monday at 12:10 PM by kavaris

[kavaris]

2 hours ago, AtmanIsBrahman said:

The second type is more interesting — manifesting as a spiritual endeavor. This means that you manifest something without actually taking action. For example, you think “I want to grow taller as an adult” and then that actually happens. This would be true manifestation because there is no objective-world action that would lead to the outcome.

I have no direct experience of this type of manifestation, but my intuition tells me it might be possible. If what Leo says about reality being imaginary is true, it must be possible to do these kinds of things, even if it requires a way higher state of consciousness.

You assume "true manifesting" means something specific, but i employ you to define it for us, for youll find a thousand different ways you could truly lay it out,

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... For example, you think “I want to grow taller as an adult”..

Maybe you mean "Can i wish for something to happen, and have it happen"? I dont know, i dont know what you are thinking. Youd have to be more distinct in your words.

Edited Monday at 12:20 PM by kavaris

[AtmanIsBrahman]

3 hours ago, kavaris said:

Maybe you mean "Can i wish for something to happen, and have it happen"? I dont know, i dont know what you are thinking. Youd have to be more distinct in your words

You’re being kind of cryptic with your words. It’s hard for me to get what you’re trying to say. 

I explained what I consider manifesting to be. It is making a change that wouldn’t have happened otherwise just through your thoughts as opposed to your actions.

Do you have any experience with manifestation, or do you have a different idea of what it means?

[Carl-Richard]

So literally pure psychic phenomena.

Reality is, your mind and its ideas influences your actions both consciously and subconsciously. It influences what you focus on, what you find relevant, salient, etc. If you entertain an idea in your mind and focus on it a lot, it will influence your life in some way, even if you think you're just being passive and not truly acting on it. Because you're always acting, you can't stop acting, and what influences your actions? Your mind.

I think the lesson of manifestation is that there is no true divide between mind and matter and that you get more of what you focus on.

[AtmanIsBrahman]

16 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

So literally pure psychic phenomena.

Reality is, your mind and its ideas influences your actions both consciously and subconsciously. It influences what you focus on, what you find relevant, salient, etc. If you entertain an idea in your mind and focus on it a lot, it will influence your life in some way, even if you think you're just being passive and not truly acting on it. Because you're always acting, you can't stop acting, and what influences your actions? Your mind.

I think the lesson of manifestation is that there is no true divide between mind and matter and that you get more of what you focus on.

Hmmm… I definitely agree that focusing your energy on something will affect your life in some way. The question is how much it can actually affect reality or “the dream” though. 

I just think that if you are imagining all of reality, you must be able to change it even on a physical level. One could argue that you wouldn’t want to do that because you’re beyond the ego’s desires in that state of consciousness, but I don’t really buy it. This is also where psychic phenomena, black magic, etc. come in. My intuition is that if these practices were 100% garbage, they wouldn’t have been practiced for so long in basically every human culture.

[Oppositionless]

Sometimes I'll "manifest" things but it's never something I really want or care for, God likes to tease me.

Example listening to some audiobook and a phrase , not some basic phrase but a really specific weird one, they use I see on a car a minute later . It's never anything useful. 

Edited 4 hours ago by Oppositionless

[Oppositionless]

I do think it's interesting how many people I've heard say that when misfortune strikes, many misfortunes strike at once . Maybe that's manifestation. The person I know with the worst attitude also has the worst luck. 

Edited 3 hours ago by Oppositionless

[ladelle]

I want to eat a pizza, how can I manifest it in my reality. I don’t have the ingredients, supermarkets are closed and I don’t have enough money to buy one at the pizza vending machine.

Edited 2 hours ago by ladelle

[Joseph Maynor]

Yes.  You can modify creative intention.