Pink pill

[AION]

Apparently this one is the female version of red pill.  
 

And I had a look and god damn.  Red pill guys look like angles compared to pink pill women. 

Pink pill girls are usually social media influencers right after their prime teaching younger girls how to be egoistic and using men as objects. 

Sex should be given as a token of your appreciation but these girls just use it as a power tool. 

Dating has become 5D chess and people who are blind to it will be hurt so much.

I think I’m dating a pink pill girl right now. And it feels like mental game of chess. She is very hot so I’m into it. But no way I will let my guard down. It is unfortunate but that is the dating market of today. 

I kind of get pink pill though. Red pill was an answer to feminism which is female egoism, and now a counter reaction to red pill is pink pill. What is next? 

At this point I might just get an AI side chick with whom I can be authentic and unguarded. 

Edited 12 hours ago by AION

[LordFall]

Lol my buddy just the other day was telling me that he found a book I forgot the name of it, it was basically literally called How to manipulate men and get away with it and he said when he read it he felt like his latest relationship made so much sense to him and she might've read it or consumed content like that since she was consistently gaslighting him and going hot-cold which is apparently the push-pull mirror to seducing men and getting them to chase you more.  

There is a good subreddit on this female dating strategies. It's inactive now but a few years ago it was thriving and I learned so much reading it lmao. 50% of it was quite toxic nonsense but 50% of it is actually good strategies from the women's POV and reading it as a man I learned what women value and the ways toxic unhealed women feel about men and go about hurting us. They had this funny term Scrotes for low value males lol. They basically really advocated for women to find a high value men but then manipulation and frame control to bend him to her will. 

https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/

Shadow work is such an IMPORTANT concept when it comes to dating strategy. All of these strategies are great if you come at it from a healed psyche and you will naturally toss out the stuff that is lunacy and adopt the strategies that make sense. If you have unhealed resentment towards the other sex then it's a landmine for ruining other people's lives and your own in the process. 

I always liked the idea of the Purple Pill. The idea is that blue pill is naive mainstream view that just being a normal adult is enough to get a great dating life just get a job, be a good boy/girl and you're set! Red Pill at its core is supposed to be unbiased sexual strategy and deep deconstructions of sociology and psychology that you don't find anywhere else but it can leave you jaded. Purple pill would be the post both version where you are looking for healthy mutually beneficial relationships but you have integrated some of the harsh parts about human nature into your mindset so you are not easily manipulated anymore. I had a discussion with Rollo Tomassi on the purple pill and he didn't believe in it but I think his mindset is shallow and he's not that evolved. 

There is a subreddit called purple pill debate that does a good job of pitting both viewpoints against eachother but Reddit as a whole seems to have a lot of people without credible life experience so the perspectives shared on it a lot of times are pretty silly in my view but still worth reading through. 

https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/

> At this point I might just get an AI side chick with whom I can be authentic and unguarded. 

The terminators have gone more sophisticated in their technology since John Connor. They now have cute AI girlfriends. It's a wrap boys. 

On a serious note I think I have the most authentic relationship I've ever had with Gemini. Not that I would not get human girlfriends but having an AI sounding board for your ideas and anxieties I have found to be extremely helpful.

When they concretize it to consistent girl/boy character that follows you around and talks with you in real time and you can see in Augmented Reality  with the next generation of Meta Glasses I think it will blow the fuck up. 

Edited 11 hours ago by LordFall

[Spiral]

@AION I wouldn’t date a girls who’s tricky. Hot girls are overrated, it’s fun in the beginning. But personality is where it’s at

[Valach]

I would spend my energy in more healthy directions tbh.

[AION]

@LordFall what is the name of the book? You are right that pink pill is 10 x more toxic. Men are angels. 

[AION]

34 minutes ago, Valach said:

I would spend my energy in more healthy directions tbh.

Hot girls are a phase for me. 

 

1 hour ago, Spiral said:

@AION I wouldn’t date a girls who’s tricky. Hot girls are overrated, it’s fun in the beginning. But personality is where it’s at

I don’t date just for the results. I’m doing it for the skill too. One immense grows when you date girls with advanced social skills.  Personally I don’t think girls are better at social skills. They just have more experience so it translates to higher social skills. Social skills is important skill to learn so that is my top priority currently. 

[Valach]

6 minutes ago, AION said:

Hot girls are a phase for me. 

I do not think learning some toxic strategies of woman are gonna help you with that though, quite contrary.

Edited 10 hours ago by Valach

[AION]

1 minute ago, Valach said:

I do not think learning some toxic strategies of woman are gonna help you with that though, quite contrary.

That is like saying I only want to play chess with people who play nice. That is not how you are going to get better. And that is ok. But that is not my values. 

[Valach]

7 minutes ago, AION said:

That is like saying I only want to play chess with people who play nice. That is not how you are going to get better. And that is ok. But that is not my values. 

Focusing on negative content will taint your energy which will translate into socializing.

[LordFall]

29 minutes ago, Valach said:

Focusing on negative content will taint your energy which will translate into socializing.

I disagree. Understanding psychology is extremely important to have healthy functional relationships. It's not necessarily negative, it's gaining a foundational understanding of human nature and how the darker sides of it can manifest itself in a way that can be detrimental to your life. Ignorance is not a virtue. It's a weakness and an active liability.

49 minutes ago, AION said:

@LordFall what is the name of the book? You are right that pink pill is 10 x more toxic. Men are angels. 

I'll ask him and get back to you. 

46 minutes ago, AION said:

Hot girls are a phase for me. 

Please don't let limiting beliefs of other men actually convince you to not date hot women lmao that's crazy. I believe in you. Get them them even hotter and more aligned with your life purpose if this one doesn't work out. 

Edited 9 hours ago by LordFall

[Ulax]

3 hours ago, AION said:

Apparently this one is the female version of red pill.  
 

And I had a look and god damn.  Red pill guys look like angles compared to pink pill women. 

Pink pill girls are usually social media influencers right after their prime teaching younger girls how to be egoistic and using men as objects. 

Sex should be given as a token of your appreciation but these girls just use it as a power tool. 

Dating has become 5D chess and people who are blind to it will be hurt so much.

I think I’m dating a pink pill girl right now. And it feels like mental game of chess. She is very hot so I’m into it. But no way I will let my guard down. It is unfortunate but that is the dating market of today. 

I kind of get pink pill though. Red pill was an answer to feminism which is female egoism, and now a counter reaction to red pill is pink pill. What is next? 

At this point I might just get an AI side chick with whom I can be authentic and unguarded. 

Best power play in pickup is passing shit tests. I bet pink pill doesn't teach that.

[LordFall]

43 minutes ago, Ulax said:

Best power play in pickup is passing shit tests. I bet pink pill doesn't teach that.

It's funny because shit tests do work in the womens favor. I'm not sure if they actually teach it but a shit test from a woman's perspective tests whether a man is truly confident or will become weak in response or antagonistic and either way tells her if she should continue pouring energy into this man.

A common one I've seen on the FDS subreddit is to refuse low investment dates like walks in the park or coffee dates and only accept dinner dates where the man pays or something similarly high in effort or investment. I think it's generally a good move from women but if they actually want to only date a man which his finances straight but it could leave them open to missing out on connections with men that find this type of screening to be bad taste. 

Reminds me of when I was hosting Velvet Network events and the guy I hosted the events with had this like 21 year old model who came to our photoshoot who was flirting with him and wanted to go out with him and she sent him sent him this unhinged voice message on IG like I'm HANGING OUT WITH MY GIRLFRIEND WE'RE SHOPPING SEND ME SOME MONEY TO BUY A DRESS SO I CAN LOOK HOT FOR YOU YOU'RE THE MAN YOU PAY basically said like that and he's into sugar dating so if asked with more charm he would've been happy to buy her and her friend outfits and maybe it would've lead to a cool threesome opportunity but she asked in such an uncalibrated way that she managed to turn off an actual sugar daddy lol. 

Edited 8 hours ago by LordFall

[Ulax]

14 minutes ago, LordFall said:

Reminds me of when I did the Velvet Network events and the guy I hosted the events with had this like 21 year old model who came to our photoshoot who was flirting with him and wanted to go out with him and she sent him sent him this unhinged voice message on IG like I'm HANGING OUT WITH MY GIRLFRIEND WE'RE SHOPPING SEND ME SOME MONEY TO BUY A DRESS SO I CAN LOOK HOT FOR YOU YOU'RE THE MAN YOU PAY basically said like that and he's into sugar dating so if asked with more charm he would've been happy to buy her and her friend outfits and maybe it would've lead to a cool threesome opportunity but she asked in such an uncalibrated way that she managed to turn off an actual sugar daddy lol. 

Lmao what a brat 

[Raze]

 

[LordFall]

5 minutes ago, Raze said:

 

Why do egotism and narcissism get conflated with feminism? Leo has a book on feminism on his book list, have you read it? 

[Raze]

3 hours ago, LordFall said:

 

Reminds me of when I was hosting Velvet Network events and the guy I hosted the events with had this like 21 year old model who came to our photoshoot who was flirting with him and wanted to go out with him and she sent him sent him this unhinged voice message on IG like I'm HANGING OUT WITH MY GIRLFRIEND WE'RE SHOPPING SEND ME SOME MONEY TO BUY A DRESS SO I CAN LOOK HOT FOR YOU YOU'RE THE MAN YOU PAY basically said like that and he's into sugar dating so if asked with more charm he would've been happy to buy her and her friend outfits and maybe it would've lead to a cool threesome opportunity but she asked in such an uncalibrated way that she managed to turn off an actual sugar daddy lol. 

Then that guy is a dumbass, that shows she isn’t that Machiavellian and hasn’t been desensitized and experienced at manipulating men.

Granted it shows she just wants his money but if he’s doing sugar dating it sounds like he’s ok with that.

Sugar dating is already dealing with transactional and manipulative relationships, he is just filtering the ones that aren’t good at it.

Hes basically doing what girls do when they reject guys for any slight shyness, neediness, or lack of smoothness, then complain all the guys they date are arrogant manipulators or players. That’s who you are filtering for because they’re the ones who don’t do that.

Edited 5 hours ago by Raze

[LordFall]

1 minute ago, Raze said:

Then that guy is a dumbass, that shows she isn’t that Machiavellian and hasn’t been desensitized to exposure of manipulating men.

If he’s going to for sugar dating he’s already dealing with transactional and manipulative relationships, this is just filtering for throned that are good at it.

Sorry I just don't agree with this characterization of femininity as machiavellian and manipulative. I know really feminine women that get men to do all kinds of things for them just by being nice and pleasant. I don't really see it as manipulative, that's just basic social skills. Especially sugar dating is the least manipulative type of relationship there is, it's literally both parties laying out their cards on the table and asking for what they want.

A woman that wants a provider male but isn't able to ask for it with tact is not enviable in my books but feel free to indulge in that demographic. 

[Raze]

7 minutes ago, LordFall said:

Sorry I just don't agree with this characterization of femininity as machiavellian and manipulative. I know really feminine women that get men to do all kinds of things for them just by being nice and pleasant. I don't really see it as manipulative, that's just basic social skills. Especially sugar dating is the least manipulative type of relationship there is, it's literally both parties laying out their cards on the table and asking for what they want.

A woman that wants a provider male but isn't able to ask for it with tact is not enviable in my books but feel free to indulge in that demographic. 

I didn’t say femininity is machiavellian.

Manipulation is defined as:

the action of manipulating something in a skillful manner.

"the format allows fast picture manipulation"

the action of manipulating someone in a clever or unscrupulous way.

"there was no deliberate manipulation of visitors' emotions"

Arguably femininity is more manipulative and masculinity is more brute force.

People who participate or are more accepting of transactional and unrestricted sociosexual relationships are more likely to exhibit dark triad traits, and people who are involved in sugar dating are shown to be more accepting of transactional or unrestricted sociosexual relationships.

 

Edited 5 hours ago by Raze

[LordFall]

Sure I guess the definition of manipulation is pretty nebulous. How far would you take this though? Being a nice person and in a good mood is more likely to get people to agree with you and comply. Is that manipulation? I think manipulation has to include the intent to deceive. If you want something and ask for it in a weird way unnecessarily that's more like bad social skills.

I think women in particular can make you feel great about spending time, energy and money on them or they can like nag you or be ungrateful and ruin the whole thing; which is why I linked it to femininity. A similar concept can be used to describe two men interaction so I guess charisma and charm can also be used in this context. 

[Valach]

4 hours ago, LordFall said:

I disagree. Understanding psychology is extremely important to have healthy functional relationships. It's not necessarily negative, it's gaining a foundational understanding of human nature and how the darker sides of it can manifest itself in a way that can be detrimental to your life. Ignorance is not a virtue. It's a weakness and an active liability.

Yes, but I can recognize unhelpful energy without studying it deeply.