Alex O'Connor basically repeats Leo Gura

[enchanted]

5 hours ago, Willy Phallicus said:

I was being critical of the material, not the person who posted it and then offered them the opportunity to set me straight.  They couldn't handle it anymore than you can.

It's says in the original post that I'm sharing a 30 second clip yet you criticize that I'm sharing a 2 hour video. You also don't engage or read the material you criticize. 

I find it interesting that other creators are spreading the message that Leo does too. If you aren't interested in these topics, or can't read between the lines, what are you doing here? Wasting your time and ours?

Edited 20 hours ago by enchanted

[Breakingthewall]

On 1/8/2026 at 1:59 AM, enchanted said:

Hey hope everyone is having a great weekend. O'Connor is interviewing a religious person, and in this 30 second clip below, he brings up a great point about how matter can't be proven by scienctists - something Leo has said almost verbatim. I have a feeling fans of Leo will enjoy watching videos on this topic as much as I do. Take care everyone. Be kind to each other out there. 

 

He says that scientists don't know what matter is, and that's not true. Quantum theory explains it, and experiments corroborate it.

Matter is a local energetic excitation of several fields of reality organized in a synchronous pattern.  A field is the possibility of reality vibrating in a certain way. 

[enchanted]

6 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Matter is a local energetic excitation of several fields of reality organized in a synchronous pattern.  A field is the possibility of reality vibrating in a certain way. 

Ya but what are those made of? 

[Breakingthewall]

5 hours ago, enchanted said:

Ya but what are those made of? 

They are made by coherent relationships. In absence of límits what's possible arises, what arises has to be relative change of state. What changes of state? The reality itself manifested as change. Nothing changes, the change itself is "something", and something always is because nothing don't is.

It could be said that what appears is a possible mathematical equation that unfolds because if it's possible, it's inevitable because reality is, and being manifest as contrast, because without contrast there is no manifestation, and no manifestation is not, and reality is. In fact really is being, it's a tautology, and being is potential, it's another tautology 

You could realize it now because it's simple. Just perceive directly, without filter, without naming the reality as unreal or dream or creation or anything. The reality is now, absolutely open, being absolute potential. That's what we are, it's totally clear 

 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by Breakingthewall

[Willy Phallicus]

13 hours ago, enchanted said:

It's says in the original post that I'm sharing a 30 second clip yet you criticize that I'm sharing a 2 hour video. 

The video is almost two hours long yeah.  I didn't say that was your fault.  I just don't see how a 30 second clip of Alex Oconnor agreeing with the same science Leo agrees with really adds anything to the larger conversation.  Especially if you just point to it and don't expand on the significance of it (hint: there is none).  "Leo fans" should be beyond that kind of intellectual torpor but I could be being overly generous in my assessment.  To be fair, you did say you simply thought this was something others would enjoy but again don't say why (in your OP). 

14 hours ago, enchanted said:

You also don't engage or read the material you criticize. 

I actually watched another 50 minutes or so after where you time stamped it.  Ill be kind here and say it wasn't even that bad a convo if you got some kind of religious vs non religious kink.  Nice of Ground News to sponsor the video and the donation links are right at the top of the description which is convenient and don't forget a NY Times author has a book out that he references like 10 times.  Clearly these guys want to help you but boy do they struggle with some topics despite being wise enough to agree with the hard backed science that says literally nothing is actually here.  

Yeah okay Alex, that's great, the table isnt there and youre made out of the same shit as the table which means youre just as imaginary now can you please explain to me why fine tuning and pantheism don't jive with you?  It seems really relevant after you just acknowledged that existence is entirely imaginary which means this is Gods mind and in Gods mind there are no other Gods.

14 hours ago, enchanted said:

I find it interesting that other creators are spreading the message that Leo does too.

A 30 second clips is not spreading the same message as Leo and even Leo tells you not to believe him and to do your own work and that doesn't mean watching clips of other people talking about the same shit I can assure you.   Did you watch that whole thing?  I dont know how far after your clip but its not long before youtuber starts working his sophistry and religious man interprets the runes incorrectly.  So yeah, my opposition to the content isn't simply for the sake of it despite the allegations of little Miss Calling-it-Wrong.

Im not trying to stop you or hinder you.  Im giving my thoughts on the subject.  Stuff like this can happen when you share stuff, not everyone has to be convinced.

14 hours ago, enchanted said:

If you aren't interested in these topics, or can't read between the lines, what are you doing here? Wasting your time and ours?

I am interested in the topic.  Im curious why anyone would think something like this is beneficial in any way when all the evidence points to some ego dopamine hit pursuit which you basically admitted too when you used the word "fans".  Its for titillation not education.  You didnt put a disclaimer in your OP that says no one can have a problem with what Im doing here.

[Human Mint]

That was a boring guest tbh.

I've found this interview a bit more to the point, but I think he's still distracted with the panthism/idealism hair splitting. 

I like his "live" contemplation way of talking that lets you follow along.

 First time hearing him btw.

Edited 2 hours ago by Human Mint