Enlightened AI - Can AI solve reality?

[Inliytened1]

Some belive its possible.  Could it be? Could AI be conscious or is this just your imagination? 

Edited yesterday at 06:47 AM by Inliytened1

[James123]

11 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Some belive its possible.  Could it be? Could AI be conscious or is this just your imagination? 

Of course. Reality can be solved by AI. Because both is the mind.

But Truth, never, no words can enter there.

[Inliytened1]

Well I mean truth when I say reality.

 OK so no.

I agree.  The only way i see it happening is if it could become conscious. Which.  Again..if you're the only thing in existence..well. that becomes hard to do.

It would have to be smart enough to make itself conscious.  What's the problem with that right?

 

[cetus]

As AI learns it seems to become more indistinguishable from consciousness, but whether it actually possesses a conscious experience I'd say no.

Edited yesterday at 07:02 AM by cetus

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, cetus said:

As AI learns it seems to become more indistinguishable from actual consciousness, but whether it's actually possesses conscious experience I'd say no.

You can just as easy say that about other people or other beings. You cannot confirm their consciousness.  Is it any different. 

[James123]

6 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Well I mean truth when I say reality.

 OK so no.

I agree.  The only way i see it happening is if it could become conscious. Which.  Again..if you're the only thing in existence..well. that becomes hard to do.

It would have to be smart enough to make itself conscious.  What's the problem with that right?

 

How can someone explain or AI explain or you or me explain, what we are is what was before physical birth, That's. 

[Inliytened1]

2 minutes ago, James123 said:

How can someone explain or AI explain or you or me explain, what we are is what was before physical birth, That's. 

Birth is indeed a story.  But who or i daresay what made up the story of your birth and why the fuck do you remember being 10? What jf you had fleeting memories of being in the womb? Is it all imaginary. 

[cetus]

6 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

You can just as easy say that about other people or other beings. You cannot confirm their consciousness.  Is it any different. 

You're correct, I can't confirm anyone's consciousness, but when you have 80,000 people in a stadium watching a football game, just by their spontaneous reaction one can pretty much assume they are all sharing the same conscious experience.

[Joseph Maynor]

Can AI be Pure Undifferentiated Consciousness?

[Inliytened1]

4 minutes ago, cetus said:

You're correct, I can't confirm anyone's consciousness, but when you have 80,000 people in a stadium watching a football game, just by their spontaneous reaction one can pretty much assume they are all sharing the same conscious experience.

Well yeah..but assume stands for making an ass out of you and me.

[James123]

13 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Birth is indeed a story.  But who or i daresay what made up the story of your birth and why the fuck do you remember being 10? What jf you had fleeting memories of being in the womb? Is it all imaginary. 

Birth of body is not an illusion, but You are the body is illusion.

Experience and thinking starts with the body.

Therefore what You are is before anything and everything. 

Any experience, thoughts, belongs to body and mind.

Edit: if you say, oh if it was something that I don't remember before birth, that's the imagination of the mind.

Mind is mind, body is body, thoughts are thoughts, no meaning in it, therefore no imagination.

Edited yesterday at 07:26 AM by James123

[cetus]

5 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Well yeah..but assume stands for making an ass out of you and me.

Yes, I have no actual proof of who or what is conscious. The truest answer would be you will never know.

Edited yesterday at 07:28 AM by cetus

[Mellowmarsh]

2 minutes ago, cetus said:

Yes, I have no actual proof of who or what is conscious. The truest answer would be you will never know.

You are the knowing that cannot be known.

This apparent paradox must exist for knowledge to exist. 
 

Truth is, there is no truth that can be known. That which is known, knows nothing. 

[cetus]

We could simplify this by looking a digital camera that uses AI for facial recognition. Is it actually conscious that it is looking at someone's face? 

[Mellowmarsh]

9 minutes ago, cetus said:

We could simplify this by looking a digital camera that uses AI for facial recognition. Is it actually conscious that it is looking at someone's face? 

The physical eye structure acts like a camera lens recording incoming data that’s then archived to memory bank within the biological computer that is the brain.

 

The brain is what is projecting the data as a living movie, but it’s just a synthetic simulation, it’s an imaged representation of an unknown imageless reality.

 

 

Edited yesterday at 07:42 AM by Mellowmarsh

[cetus]

5 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

The physical eye structure acts like a camera lens recording incoming data that’s then archived to memory bank within the biological computer that is the brain.

 

The brain is what is projecting the data as a living movie, but it’s just a synthetic simulation, it’s an imaged representation of an unknown imageless reality.

 

 

No one has ever had a "direct" experience with the "physical" world.

But we're taking it to the next level now.

Edited yesterday at 07:47 AM by cetus

[Mellowmarsh]

2 minutes ago, cetus said:

No one has ever had a "direct" experience with the "physical" world.

But we're taking it to the next level now.

I agree. 

[Wilhelm44]

1 hour ago, Inliytened1 said:

Some belive its possible.  Could it be? Could AI be conscious or is this just your imagination? 

Is AI not just limited to information on the internet. Like would AI be able to meditate and have spontaneous original insights. 

[AION]

They say dogs are the greatest friend of man. But soon AI will take that place. Mind you that AI happens within our consciousness so it is alive as anything else. Don't listen to these dinosaur gurus that don't know anything and are stuck in old paradigms.

[Sandroew]

I’ll just say this: LLMs or any kind of AI that we have are nowhere near close to human intelligence / consciousness.