1 Dating Coach vs 20 Manosphere (ft. Mark Manson)

[Inliytened1]

Ok everybody chill and look at some alien twat.

[LordFall]

32 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

Yeah, I wanna put in some effort to make myself valuable and provide value for my woman. That has nothing to do with you or the results you've made up/pulled out of your ass. I could give 2 shits about you or your bitchass opinion

Get a place of your own before talking shit about me, you homeless schmuck

You seem very resentful and angry, what is that about? You did it as well on page 2 by being mad that women aren't criticized more and that they get more attention than men.

Be careful with the victim mindset, in life you can get better or bitter. 

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[NewKidOnTheBlock]

1 hour ago, LordFall said:

You seem very resentful and angry, what is that about? You did it as well on page 2 by being mad that women aren't criticized more and that they get more attention than men.

Be careful with the victim mindset, in life you can get better or bitter. 

You just think I was mad, or whatever negative quality you wanna prescribe to me, and there's nothing I can do to change your mind about that lol so why bother. I really, really couldn't care less about any of you, but tbh I generally like your posts and proactive, positive tone of them, you seem to put a lot of effort into them as they are always so polished. That's why I did not reply that one time when you called me dumb about my views on economics lol

[Elliott]

1 minute ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

 but tbh I generally like your posts and proactive, positive tone of them, you seem to put a lot of effort into them as they are always so polished. That's why I did not reply that one time when you called me dumb about my views on economics lol

 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

3 hours ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

Yes of course, I understand that, we all kinda do intrinsically even though wokies try to flip the script. But my point was, that todays globalized world and economy means women can (and do) get a lot more attention than they used to. This is one of the things that redpill brought up, and it is good to be aware of these things and acknowledge reality

But why?

Do you think women are having a good time because they get "more attention"? More attention doesn't mean shit. Is it actually welcome? What about quality of attention? 

I've seen this "more attention" talking point frequently and I just don't understand why there appears to be an assumption this is purely good, beneficial or desired. 

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You guys in this thread are being silly. Women are humans just like you - we aren't a different fucking species. "Understanding women" is the wrong idea, that's your first error. Trying to understand is the issue. 

Just accept. Connect. That's it. 

[Valach]

39 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

But why?

Do you think women are having a good time because they get "more attention"? More attention doesn't mean shit. Is it actually welcome? What about quality of attention? 

I've seen this "more attention" talking point frequently and I just don't understand why there appears to be an assumption this is purely good, beneficial or desired. 

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You guys in this thread are being silly. Women are humans just like you - we aren't a different fucking species. "Understanding women" is the wrong idea, that's your first error. Trying to understand is the issue. 

Just accept. Connect. That's it. 

If they would be able to connect to their own feminine side which is repressed, it would be so much easier connecting and understanding woman.

[LordFall]

1 hour ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

You just think I was mad, or whatever negative quality you wanna prescribe to me, and there's nothing I can do to change your mind about that lol so why bother. I really, really couldn't care less about any of you, but tbh I generally like your posts and proactive, positive tone of them, you seem to put a lot of effort into them as they are always so polished. That's why I did not reply that one time when you called me dumb about my views on economics lol

Why don't you care about us? I hope that you do and are using that phrasing as a defence mechanism. I care about you and everyone on the forum that's why sometimes I'm a bit harsh in my phrasing. I think some people's viewpoints are genuinely damaging to their life. I'm learning to be a better communicator as insulting people doesn't lead to productive dialogue most times. I also think being very harsh with our intellectual standards is how we improve and rise above the tough conditions of the world so I welcome anybody else doing the same to me.

Thanks for the compliments I try to be valuable, it's one of my core life philosophies. It's fine to chit chat and shoot the shit sometimes but these are real problems we're facing if we're talking about dating and personal finance issues. That's why I specifically wanted to call you out on the page 2 comments about accusing some of us of whiteknighting and stepping in when someone criticizes women.

That's not really my goal, an individual woman should get constructive criticism if her actions are not conducive to her goals or hurting the people around her. We're mostly men here though and a lot of us are falling into complacency instead of being high competence individuals which I think solves a lot of problems of happiness in life. Getting consistent Ws in life cures most depression in my experience and the rest is spirituality which the whole forum is based around so usually the materialistic stuff and success is the shadow. 

 

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[Inliytened1]

3 minutes ago, LordFall said:

Why don't you care about us? I care about you and everyone on the forum that's why sometimes I'm a bit harsh in my phrasing. I think some people's viewpoints are genuinely damaging to their life. I'm learning to be a better communicator as insulting people doesn't lead to productive dialogue most times. I also think being very harsh with our intellectual standards is how we improve and rise above the tough conditions of the world so I welcome anybody else doing the same to me.

Thanks for the compliments I try to be valuable, it's one of my core life philosophies. It's fine to chit chat and shoot the shit sometimes but these are real problems we're facing if we're talking about dating and personal finance issues. That's why I specifically wanted to call you out on the page 2 comments about accusing some of us of whiteknighting and stepping in when someone criticizes women.

That's not really my goal, an individual woman should get constructive criticism if her actions are not conducive to her goals or hurting the people around her. We're mostly men here though and a lot of us are falling into complacency instead of being high competence individuals which I think solves a lot of problems of happiness in life. Getting consistent Ws in life cures most depression in my experience and the rest is spirituality which the whole forum is based around so usually the materialistic stuff and success is the shadow. 

 

Yeah. What he said. 

[Inliytened1]

@LordFall one thing that was a hard and long lesson - it took me almost 50 years - is that often you have to bring yourself down to the level where someone else is at. You can't level them up.  They have to do it themselves. 

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[LordFall]

37 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

@LordFall one thing that was a hard and long lesson - it took me almost 50 years - is that often you have to bring yourself down to the level where someone else is at. You can't level them up.  They have to do it themselves. 

Totally. I find it great that we have teachers on the internet to speed up our learning curves. If I didn't learn from Leo, Owen Cook, RSD Luke and Michael Sartain my life would be at best 10% of what it already is today let alone the massive things I'm planning over the next couple decades. God bless evolution! 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

1 hour ago, Inliytened1 said:

@LordFall one thing that was a hard and long lesson - it took me almost 50 years - is that often you have to bring yourself down to the level where someone else is at. You can't level them up.  They have to do it themselves. 

I agree. 

Lordfall has good intentions, but his rhetoric often works against him. This sort of speaking pattern is low efficiency for delivering a message and often projects frustration onto the reader.

[Hojo]

16 hours ago, LordFall said:

No.

You’re making the classic pop-physics mistake of confusing quantum measurement with human conscious awareness.

In the double-slit experiment, the wave function collapses when a particle interacts with a detector (or any physical system that registers information), not when a human brain "looks" at it. Decoherence happens through continuous environmental interaction—air molecules, thermal radiation, and gravity are "measuring" your room every microsecond. It doesn't "desolidify" behind you because the physical interactions maintaining its state don't pause just because your retinas aren't active.

You are confusing qualia with ontology. When you close your eyes, the blackness you "see" is just your brain processing the lack of optical data from your retinas. That is a limitation of your sensory hardware, not a feature of physical reality.

Conflating "I am no longer rendering visual data" with "the underlying system has ceased to exist" is like turning off your computer monitor and claiming the CPU stopped processing code.

My guy if what you were saying was true when you closed your eyes you would fall through your bed and the floor and the earth. You realize how absurd that is? Really think about it for a few minutes. 

@LordFall People do experience falling through the floor, or dissolving into nothing.

You get about 24-30 hours before you start falling through the floor.

When you close your eyes you have residual memory of where you are but you keep them closed long enough everything dissolves.

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[LordFall]

22 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I agree. 

Lordfall has good intentions, but his rhetoric often works against him. This sort of speaking pattern is low efficiency for delivering a message and often projects frustration onto the reader.

 

18 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@LordFall People do experience falling through the floor, or dissolving into nothing.

You get about 24-30 hours before you start falling through the floor.

When you close your eyes you have residual memory of where you are but you keep them closed long enough everything dissolves.

@Natasha Tori Maru How would you answer this? 

My first instinct is to say okay bro cool story

If I was to entertain the thought I would say okay @Hojo but you do understand that if you close your eyes for a long time and you feel like things desolve they aren't actually desolving? And if they are desolving what does that mean to you? Sometimes when I close my eyes for a long time I start to see vivid scenes, I don't know what they are yet I've not tried to explore it in depth but perhaps I can close my eyes for a long time and remote view or enter a parallel reality? Is that what you're talking about? Perhaps bro fuck it who knows. 

I don't think people literally desolve into nothing though unless you can link me some articles where people are randomly disappearing and previously they were closing their eyes for only 12 hours and their friends and family were finding that odd and now they've achieved full disolution and finally got to the 24-30 hour mark and actually vanished.

When I pasted this into Gemini here is what it said : There's a key distinction between sensory deprivation and physical ontology. If you close your eyes in a dark room for 30 hours, your brain's internal spatial rendering decays because it lacks fresh optical input—you might feel like you're floating or dissolving. But that is a neurochemical state inside your brain, not a change in the physical floor beneath you. Conflating internal perceptual decay with external physical disappearance is where people get tripped up.

Realistically I think this is copium designed to deal with the anxiety and frustration of lack of success in real life. This is why I bring it back to successful figures like Elon Musk because to find success in reality you have to take abstract ideas and solve all the friction of reality to bring concepts to life. It's hard and not many people can do it so it's easier to take the pseudointellectual route. I get it but I think it's important to rise above that otherwise frustration and depression is the only place we dissolve into. 

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[Hojo]

@LordFall according to hinduism the entire universe is dissolving.

Right now the universe is a seed and you are looking into the seeds quantum state.

When you sleep you close the seed.

If you can remain concious in sleep you can dictate whats in the seed and change it.

Edited 32 minutes ago by Hojo

[LordFall]

4 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@LordFall according to hinduism the entire universe is dissolving.

Right now the universe is a seed and you are looking into the seeds quantum state.

When you sleep you close the seed.

If you can remain concious in sleep you can dictate whats in the seed and change it.

idk bro maybe who knows. How have these thoughts helped your dating life? 

Edited 29 minutes ago by LordFall

[Hojo]

@LordFall The truth of reality give me immense peace. When you are peaceful the universe works for you.

In Hinduism, your daily sleep mirrors the dissolution of the universe (Pralaya). Just as the cosmos cycles through creation and reabsorption, your consciousness withdraws inward at night, letting the world vanish into the unmanifested state. [1, 2, 3, 4]

This beautiful connection between your nightly rest and the universe is rooted in Hindu philosophy: [1]

Microcosm and Macrocosm: Hindu cosmology, as detailed in texts like the Bhagavata Purana, teaches that the laws governing the universe apply exactly to the individual. What happens to the cosmos on a grand scale also happens to you on a daily basis. [1, 2, 3]

The Cycle of Deep Sleep (Sushupti): When you enter deep sleep, the world of forms, thoughts, and ego dissolves. In Advaita Vedanta, this state is called Sushupti. It is a temporary return to your original, peaceful source, which represents a personal experience of dissolution. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

The Creator's Rest: On a cosmic level, when the Creator (Brahma) goes to sleep, the universe enters a period of rest, and the physical worlds are withdrawn into the cosmic ocean. When you wake up, it is essentially a microcosm of the universe being born anew. [1, 2]

 

 

The universe is like a magical dot. You leave the dot the dot turns into magical creatures begging you to come play with it. I saw this with my own perception. I meditate and I left the dot and I saw stars and unicorns and mystical creatures saying come back play with me.

 

You are God the only one playing with a magical dot.

If you can be conscious on sleep then you can dictate what the universe does.

When you wake up in the morning you are creating everything all over again instantly via memory.

Edited 25 minutes ago by Hojo

[LordFall]

Fair enough man, finding peace is important. Do you want to have sex with/date attractive women? To me working towards that gives me a lot of peace as when I focus on airy fairy stuff reality throws reminders of my lack of success every once in a while and I have to bear the consequences of my lack of mastery over reality.

Oftentimes I smoke weed to feel better but I'm trying to quit it fully to focus on actualizing my highest goals in real life. 

[Hojo]

@LordFall I already did that. I have had sex probably over 3000 times I have partied thousands of times.

As for success I have a house and job.

I was focused on death and I got an answer after that everything is a bonus.

My goal in life was to know what happens on death and God give me the answer.

No I find peace in sitting and maintain my space and thinking about God.

When I awoke God gave me a house and everyone around me filled it with stuff. I never bought anything in this house people gave me stuff. My mortgage is 300 dollars a month. God set me up after he awoken me.

During my party days I meditated for 24 hours at a time. I was focus on God the entire time.

I have meditated probably 1000s of hours unintentionally.

I had absolutely nothing my entire life then I awoke and then God gave me everything I needed to sit comfortably.

I never had a goal in life except to find a way out of death. And I find it.

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[LordFall]

That's cool, I appreciate you sharing your journey. For me I'm still in the process of building my dream life and am not satisfied with where I'm at. I'm an INTP and think in systems and throughout my 20s I partied and a lot and tried a lot of business models and had a lot of cool experiences but didn't find the success I wanted. I've been watching Leo's content for 10 years and that's helped me a lot towards making sense of reality. I'm much looking forward to expanding on what I can do in my 30s and 40s and so hold myself to a high standard but I realize that other people have different goals and I should look to understand them more instead of projecting my ideas and desires unto them all the time. Sorry for being rude to you. 

I still don't get why most guys don't want to go deeper into this stuff, it's basically endless the fun and adventures you can have. Polyamory is so cool to me and it's really only in our modern day that it's possible at a wide scale. I was just reading about Coco Chanel, the founder of Chanel, who grew up in a convent with nuns on France and had such a boring life and then she worked at a theater and met a dude with a castle who just hosted parties with a bunch of women but that was too hedonistic so she started dating this dude Arthur Capel who was an english aristocrat and who dated her had a wife and was seeing multiple women and was a successful businessman who helped the UK and France massively during WW1. That's my life purpose and what I work towards each day. 

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[Hojo]

@LordFall Its ok I dont mind people being rude to me, Now I am learning how to control my energy in any situation. I didnt have meta cognitive thinking until I awoken, my energies were totally fuck my mind was and is still corrupted, so I am working on that as having sex alot and thinking about sex alot corrupts your mind. I am trying to reverse everything and control my energy so be as you are.