Solipsism - You will only have your perspective- forever

[Wilhelm44]

@Inliytened1  

I won't be able to convince you with regards to Jim's experience.

It might be a better idea to speak to Mellowmarsh, her sense of separate self has also 'fallen away' permanently.

[Inliytened1]

9 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

@Inliytened1  

I won't be able to convince you with regards to Jim's experience.

It might be a better idea to speak to Mellowmarsh, her sense of separate self has also 'fallen away' permanently.

 Her? Didn't realize she was a she.  Anyways - I'm not disputing permanence.  Once you wake up from a dream could you ever dream the same way? Let me ask you this.  Could you forget you were dreaming again and fall back into the dream, well - that's what God does to keep you sane.  He allows you to dream again. Otherwise you would go crazy. So..whatever they tell you - I'm telling you they aren't in that same God state anymore .  We talk about God Consciousness all the time here. It's because you are not always in it otherwise there would be no differentiation between God Consciousness and human Consciousness.   A 24/7 God state would probably lose you of all self desires and goals which includes survival. So they can tell you all day how permanent it is.  The realization is permanent but states change and are impermanent.  That's how you can be immortal. 

Edited 13 hours ago by Inliytened1

[Wilhelm44]

1 hour ago, Inliytened1 said:

 Her? Didn't realize she was a she.  Anyways - I'm not disputing permanence.  Once you wake up from a dream could you ever dream the same way? Let me ask you this.  Could you forget you were dreaming again and fall back into the dream, well - that's what God does to keep you sane.  He allows you to dream again. Otherwise you would go crazy. So..whatever they tell you - I'm telling you they aren't in that same God state anymore .  We talk about God Consciousness all the time here. It's because you are not always in it otherwise there would be no differentiation between God Consciousness and human Consciousness.   A 24/7 God state would probably lose you of all self desires and goals which includes survival. So they can tell you all day how permanent it is.  The realization is permanent but states change and are impermanent.  That's how you can be immortal. 

I'm going to tap out here for now.

@Mellowmarsh  Please can you respond here, I feel you'll be able explain in a much clearer way.

(Inliytened1 feels it would be impossible to function on a daily basis if the sense of a separate self has 'fallen away' permanently)

Edited 11 hours ago by Wilhelm44

[Inliytened1]

35 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

I'm going to tap out here for now.

@Mellowmarsh  Please can you respond here, I feel you'll be able explain in a much clearer way.

She's not gonna win the debate about permanence. I think you stabbed yourself in the foot there.

[Wilhelm44]

13 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

She's not gonna win the debate about permanence. I think you stabbed yourself in the foot there.

I can't yet speak from firsthand experience with regards to the permanence issue. Mellowmarsh can.

[Inliytened1]

Just now, Wilhelm44 said:

I can't yet speak from firsthand experience with regards to the permanence issue. Mellowmarsh can.

Let's she what's she's got.  

[Wilhelm44]

1 minute ago, Joseph Maynor said:

It has to come from you.  

You funny bro, where are you, in Canada ?

[Wilhelm44]

8 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Let's she what's she's got.  

Just be open to the possibility that something that you thought was impossible, might actually be possible.

[Wilhelm44]

Just now, Joseph Maynor said:

I'm in San Fran.  

Nice

[Inliytened1]

3 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Just be open to the possibility that something that you thought was impossible, might actually be possible.

When you put it that way both possible and impossible are both correct. So I guess we are both right..

@Joseph Maynor see. It came from him afterall.

[Inliytened1]

Just now, Joseph Maynor said:

@Inliytened1 But what does that mean though?

Be humble that's what it means.  No one is an authority here.  We are all learning from each other.  

[Wilhelm44]

1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said:

Be humble that's what it means.  No one is an authority here.  We are all learning from each other.  

Bingo

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Bingo

Still wanna see what she has to say 😀

[Inliytened1]

2 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Exactly.  It is a meta-questioning of the privileging of meaning over relation.  Thus the insistence of "no separate self".  The problem is, the project requires a meaning of its own.

Yeah .why press it.  It isn't going to awaken anyone.   I mean, do the no self guys do marketing?

[Inliytened1]

Just now, Joseph Maynor said:

Why press what specifically?

The no self stuff.

[Inliytened1]

2 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

What does it mean to awaken someone for you?

To pull the plug on Neo and watch him break out. It sounds almost Jesus like now that you made me say it myself.  

Edited 11 hours ago by Inliytened1

[Inliytened1]

Just now, Joseph Maynor said:

Do you have a job?

Yeah.  I'm a CTO at a leading IT company and all I have done today is talk with @Wilhelm44.  And you.  I am just lucky because i have stayed there 20 years now and pretty much kept it going all this time.

[Sincerity]

10 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Yeah.  I'm a CTO at a leading IT company and all I have done today is talk with @Wilhelm44.  And you.  I am just lucky because i have stayed there 20 years now and pretty much kept it going all this time.

Damn that’s cool!

[Inliytened1]

14 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I figured you were in tech.  Great!  I thought you had your own business.

I have..it's easier to bullshit with you guys. What the fuck else matters but reality. 

[LordFall]

43 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Yeah.  I'm a CTO at a leading IT company and all I have done today is talk with @Wilhelm44.  And you.  I am just lucky because i have stayed there 20 years now and pretty much kept it going all this time.

Great minds think alike. How much do you use AI yourself and at your company?