I just got enlightened - AMA

[Yimpa]

Are you conscious that there is no Leo and that there is only infinite imagination? 

Whew Leo  mentions Alien Consciousness, do you think it’s nonsense or are you open to exploring that? 

[Pure]

@Joshe Yes, basically. They are images or animations based on their purpose. They go out automatically when it's appropriate.

It's more than images/animations. For example if I conjure up a jet plane it can fly around, talk and more.

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[Pure]

@vibv Check out my answer to @MediumKahuna.

I've invoked you and your portrait said 'Hello' to me. As of now it's ~95% generic ~5% the case.

It's too early and too little information to know what you will become.

I haven't tested to check the future for humanity or Earth. As of now I think seeing the future is a challenging task with low probability. You need enormous information to predict a big future outcome.

[Pure]

@Ziran All beings can speak the native language of the host. I'm Norwegian and if I start to speak in Norwegian suddenly all beings start to speak Norwegian. In your case the 'chinese being' would start speaking Norwegian.

[LordFall]

1 hour ago, Pure said:

@LordFall Fascinating. You have in depth knowledge of a lot of the issues on Earth.

As of Buddha eye it's more like I have full access in the spiritual realm. For example I can set the intent to see heaven and it shows up. I can also 'invoke' others. I have many beings on Earth with me.

As of the solution to each issue I instead give you a new worldview that might bring clarity:

The uploaded image is how the world would be with 4 humans. Everyone is in their own 'bubble' outside there are only probabilities (black). The green circle is God/The Self (you), the pink spheres are the spheres of observation of NPC's. Each bubble are also holons (whole in and of them selves and also part of a larger whole). In your holon all of the issues exist. Instead of thinking the issues are 'out there' instead see if you can identify the issue in your holon by for example looking at a wall or an image.

I'm not too sure how that makes sense from your perspective but from my perspective what that means is that by solving my own egoic shortcomings then I'll be in a better position to help the world heal itself and unite. 

I think from other states of being I could easily start wars so I can see how other people do. 

[MediumKahuna]

45 minutes ago, Pure said:

@MediumKahuna Check out my answer to @LordFall.

I invoked you and now that protrait of you is in my awareness. It then said 'Hello' to me. I was shown indoor of a house.

It's not more specific because I don't know enough about you. The voice might be 5% the real you, 95% a general voice. Same with the house.

Wow! Well, I'm convinced.

[Pure]

@Yimpa Leo is a complicated case for me. Half a year ago I temporarily descended quite a bit. 'Soul-Leo' was there both helping me and being a hassle (it's understandable under the circumstances). He was very real in soul-form. Later I've ascended enormously and Soul-Leo was back, however something not so good happend to him.

So when you say 'no Leo' it's tricky when I can be in contact with his soul or spirit form.

In the world (not in the spirit world) I can recognize that it's all imaginary. The spirit world is becoming more real than the real world.

Alien consciousness could be possible, I'm not certain. I'll keep it in the back of my head and see if I can come into contact with it.

[Pure]

@LordFall That's a good takeaway. I wouldn't focus too much on the problems in the world though, it's all imaginary. For example, no one other than you can suffer.

[LordFall]

2 minutes ago, Pure said:

@LordFall That's a good takeaway. I wouldn't focus too much on the problems in the world though, it's all imaginary. For example, no one other than you can suffer.

What makes you say that? It's a dangerous train of thought and closer to delusional psychosis than enlightenment imo. I've definitely hurt people in various ways throughout my life and I'm sure you have as well. Touch some grass. 

[Pure]

@LordFall What do you think is meant when Ramani Maharshi, I and Leo say that others don't exist? They are conjured up immediately when within The Self's sphere of consciousness. For example for me people can teleport 1 meter in front of themselves, significantly revealing that they are not real. Your not gonna believe this, but small white/black spheres are literally manifested from nothing in front of me if I do certain things. I'm up to 15-20 of them now. I really want to check if others see the same, if that's true I can literally manifest matter.

Profound wisdom can be misused enormously. Knowing others don't exist one could be tempted to harm others.

[Elliott]

14 minutes ago, Pure said:

@LordFall . For example, no one other than you can suffer.

Neo advaita is not enlightenment, it's just dissociation, dangerous and toxic.

[LordFall]

10 minutes ago, Pure said:

@LordFall What do you think is meant when Ramani Maharshi, I and Leo say that others don't exist? They are conjured up immediately when within The Self's sphere of consciousness. For example for me people can teleport 1 meter in front of themselves, significantly revealing that they are not real. Your not gonna believe this, but small white/black spheres are literally manifested from nothing in front of me if I do certain things. I'm up to 15-20 of them now. I really want to check if others see the same, if that's true I can literally manifest matter.

Profound wisdom can be misused enormously. Knowing others don't exist one could be tempted to harm others.

I think it means that we are part of one universal mind and that other selves are just you in other bodies simultaneously experiencing reality.

The mind is powerful and can conjure up all kinds of thoughts and ideas and visions. Being able to separate the random passing intuitions or visual hallucinations one gets while high on psychedelics or going through mystical experiences from the tangible wise insights that can be used to improve our shared physical reality is what seperates a wise awakened person from someone caught up in a solipsistic delusion/psychosis or going full blown schizophrenic. 

 

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[Joshe]

1 hour ago, Pure said:

They go out automatically when it's appropriate.

The best I can do is a still image and the only way to get animated scenes is with conscious effort. On a psychedelic, the scenes are automatic and require no conscious effort. 

Are you saying you experience fluid-motion scenes that can go on at length without conscious effort, while sober? If so, how do you think this capacity developed?

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[Pure]

@LordFall Isn't it suspicious that Buddhism say that only your state of mind matters for your next incarnation? If others were real other mind states would matter.

[LordFall]

10 minutes ago, Pure said:

@LordFall Isn't it suspicious that Buddhism say that only your state of mind matters for your next incarnation? If others were real other mind states would matter.

Have you watched Leo's videos on epistemology and truth? Why do you believe what Buddhism says? What process have you gone through to validate it? Be careful of conclusions that you come from purely on psychedelics, I had something similar and I hurt someone in the process and ended up in jail for a bit so I guarantee you that the pain was real and that the jail was real. I also know many friends that had psychosis and ended up in psych wards for a bit. 

Psychosis and grounding mechanisms are not talked enough on this forum, I think it's worth addressing @Leo Gura because I have so many discussions with people saying absolutely nonsense these past few days in a way that could lead to dangerous outcomes for themselves and others in their lives. 

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[Pure]

@Joshe Yes. All sober.

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Another advice is to 'go with the flow' and see where it takes you. For me my body can move automatically when I don't intend anything. I'm not sure if this is a thing for everyone or if it's a skill that I've acquired. Anyways with this kind of automatic movement you can for example go on amazing trips outside where you cultivate knowledge and learn to surrender to the flow of the universe.

I followed this flow for about 2 years now. The more I follow it the more Godlike I become and more vivid the creations and invokes become. It's about half the story because acting divinely also increase its vividness.

[Pure]

@LordFall Yes I have. I use it for what it's worth. When an entire religion says something it should at least be critically entertained.

You seem to say something is real based on your level of empathy in the situation. Don't think that's enough.

Mostly all my insights shared here have been gotten from a sober state.

Leo Gura believes in solipsism and that others don't suffer, so you are kind of asking for help from someone who believes what you criticize.

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[Joshe]

11 minutes ago, Pure said:

I followed this flow for about 2 years now. The more I follow it the more Godlike I become and more vivid the creations and invokes become. It's about half the story because acting divinely also increase its vividness.

Interesting. I can see how it could develop like that, thanks. 

Although I'm not sure I would attach "Godlike" to the capacity, as that seems like a story being added onto it. 

[Ziran]

1 hour ago, Pure said:

@Ziran All beings can speak the native language of the host. I'm Norwegian and if I start to speak in Norwegian suddenly all beings start to speak Norwegian. In your case the 'chinese being' would start speaking Norwegian.

When I post a youtube clip from chinese news media, what will happen from your POV?

[LordFall]

11 minutes ago, Pure said:

@LordFall Yes I have. I use it for what it's worth. When an entire religion says something it should at least be critically entertained.

You seem to say something is real based on your level of empathy in the situation. Don't think that's enough.

Mostly all my insights shared here have been gotten from a sober state.

Leo Gura believes in solipsism and that others don't suffer, so you are kind of asking for help from someone who believes what you criticize.

A lot of spirituality I'm starting to realize is inventing stories to cope with the harshness of reality. Reality is hardcore and has real consequences. A lot of spiritually minded people shy away from the pain of business by convincing themselves that they are here for greater spiritual purposes than such a shallow thing as materialism, although every problem or purpose in the world is improved through a greater access to resources and a greater ability to get others to join you on your work.

One of those pains is the negative effects that we have on others, often unintended. I think it's extremely tempting to have a few mystical experiences and handwave that away with others are illusory and don't feed pain which just means I can do whatever I want in reality and be off the hook. I think that's an extremely dangerous way to think and I heavily warn you against it my friend as well as anybody else reading this.