Sri Niagaradasti Enlightenment Story

[gettoefl]

1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

I wasn't mistaken, just I couldn't remove the emotional and mental barriers that are inherent to human condition.

The reality was the same, just existing, but if you are immersed in the emotional human density it's not easy to make everything clear enough to be able to open yourself to the unlimited nature of everything . 

You were doing it all to yourself. But just as readily you can undo it and be whole. This is the work. There is no bad. And there is no good. These were imposed interpretation which blocked the luminous reality from shining forth. Correction is possible and available every moment.

[Breakingthewall]

22 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

You were doing it all to yourself. But just as readily you can undo it and be whole. This is the work. There is no bad. And there is no good. These were imposed interpretation which blocked the luminous reality from shining forth. Correction is possible and available every moment.

31 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

 

Imo It's not as simple as saying you're causing your own closure. If you're a woman in Afghanistan and they sell you to an old man when you're 11 so he can lock you up at home and rape you, things get complicated. Reality is wild, nothing is guaranteed 

Edited 9 hours ago by Breakingthewall

[Someone here]

The same pointless confused conversations again lol . Before deciding “we should eliminate the ego “ or “we should align the ego “ ..do you even know what the ego actually is ? 
the ego is your sense of “I” . Full stop .

the sense of I is real . The I itself is not real . 
so what are you going to align or deny ? 

Edited 8 hours ago by Someone here

[Someone here]

I know it’s hard (almost impossible)  for most people to wrap their minds around the notion that the ego itself doesn’t actually exist in physical reality . 
We can speak loosely about overcoming or weakening the ego by spiritual practice like meditation or fasting but in the ultimate Analysis it should be clear there is no ego in the most literal sense possible. The “I” is a thought instead of a physical entity . Whenever the thought “I” arises it comes delayed after the act happens and it claims ownership of thoughts and deeds . The body eats and breathes and sleeps and then the i-thought arises and claims dowership “I slept or I dreamt or I ate etc “

 

[James123]

3 hours ago, Someone here said:

The same pointless confused conversations again lol . Before deciding “we should eliminate the ego “ or “we should align the ego “ ..do you even know what the ego actually is ? 
the ego is your sense of “I” . Full stop .

the sense of I is real . The I itself is not real . 
so what are you going to align or deny ? 

Exactly. Even after enlightenment, thinking pattern doesn't change, mind, body, life never changes. 

But You realize that You are the source of all. 

There is a still body, mind, ego, me ness, yet this mind activity. 

Not actual You.

And many people think that it is something to reach or feel good. Therefore, enlightenment in mainstream become something to achieve. 

Yet, they don't know, it is exactly as sleeping why body moving, just putting the non existent before birth in now.

Therefore, disseparing or non experiencing for ego, yet it is Yours True Self.

And freedom is confused by many people, like flying or feeling completely free. No, even feeling belongs to body. 

Real freedom is not existentence whatsoever.

Even existentence is limitation itself.

La ilahe illallah.

[Mellowmarsh]

5 hours ago, Someone here said:

The same pointless confused conversations again lol . Before deciding “we should eliminate the ego “ or “we should align the ego “ ..do you even know what the ego actually is ? 
the ego is your sense of “I” . Full stop .

the sense of I is real . The I itself is not real . 
so what are you going to align or deny ? 

I agree that the ego is the sense of I or the sense of I am an individual. Also, I agree that this sense of I am an individual feels real, and yet on closer introspection the sense of individuality can be seen through as not actually existing to be real, in the context there’s no actual individual entity called I …as the I is simply recognised as being a label. The label is also part of the whole mechanical process that is born of language which is just an auditory illusion of light and sound.
 

This auditory illusion is recognised as a phenomenon that gives shape to everything in the form of a label, but the shapes are never a fixed”actuality”as they are constantly shifting and changing from one thing to another.

On the human level this identification with I is a necessary tool born out of conceptual language, it’s how the sense of ego navigates the environment it is artificially born into, that has the sense of appearing real.

In a nutshell, no one has ever experienced a solid world of physical manifestation, because it’s an illusion, what feels physical is actually the effect of a non-physical electromagnetic invisible force field, where matter or form and sensation of solidity is an illusory effect of the force field .

I read this on the internet. And I believe that what’s happening on the fundamental level of our atomic structure. I like to go deep on my personal thinking these things through to their core principles. I’m not saying it’s true, it could be completely wrong, but it sounds feasible to me, so I’m going to believe it’s true. It’s what I believe anyway.

Edited 2 hours ago by Mellowmarsh

[James123]

7 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

like to go deep on my personal thinking these things through to their core principles. I’m not saying it’s true, it could be completely wrong, but it sounds feasible to me, so I’m going to believe it’s true. It’s what I believe anyway.

Watch the thinker, believer, experiencer, till watcher dissolves. 

Then thinker and experiencer becomes it's own, and You are always what you MF are.

[Mellowmarsh]

Just now, James123 said:

Watch the thinker, believer, experiencer, till watcher dissolves. 

Then thinker and experiencer becomes it's own, and You are always what you MF are.

Yes, I agree that what you are at the fundamental core is the watcher. The invisible light.

[James123]

3 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Yes, I agree that what you are at the fundamental core is the watcher. The invisible light.

Even watcher dies too 😂 

[James123]

@Mellowmarsh imagine you are witnessing the thoughts, and witness dies. 

So what will be you? 😂 And the one experience/ witness thoughts, body, feelings dies. What will be you? 😂 

Edited 2 hours ago by James123

[Mellowmarsh]

I think that most people already sense their microcosm sense of being is inseparable from the macrocosm of everything.

And that there’s no difference in weight or size of anything because everything sums to zero.

 

 Whether people become enlightened or not is irrelevant , most people already have an innate sense of their illusory sense of separate nature, they already sense their smallness against the vastness, and are able to intuit they are also the vastness appearing small. 
 

After all, we all remember how we used to look at our beginning of life…

as imaged here 👉

 

[Mellowmarsh]

4 minutes ago, James123 said:

@Mellowmarsh imagine you are witnessing the thoughts, and witness dies. 

So what will be you? 😂 And the one experience/ witness thoughts, body, feelings dies. What will be you? 😂 

I understand what you are saying James, I totally feel the evaporation and the what will you be after the death. I know it James, so thank you.

[Mellowmarsh]

10 minutes ago, James123 said:

Even watcher dies too 😂 

Yes, even the watcher dies, I understand it. 
 

I freaking love this. 

[James123]

5 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

I understand what you are saying James, I totally feel the evaporation and the what will you be after the death. I know it James, so thank you.

💋 

[Wilhelm44]

4 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Yes, even the watcher dies, I understand it. 
 

I freaking love this. 

I am curious, how have you personally integrated nonduality and God realization ? It seems to me that the God realization people underestimate the importance of a permanent cessation of the separate sense of self. At the same time I sense the nonduality people can also still learn something from the God realization guys, ie perhaps there's some real deep validity to certain peak mystical states etc.

[Mellowmarsh]

14 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

I think that most people already sense their microcosm sense of being is inseparable from the macrocosm of everything.

And that there’s no difference in weight or size of anything because everything sums to zero.

 

 Whether people become enlightened or not is irrelevant , most people already have an innate sense of their illusory sense of separate nature, they already sense their smallness against the vastness, and are able to intuit they are also the vastness appearing small. 
 

After all, we all remember how we used to look at our beginning of life…

as imaged here 👉

 

Looks familiar, no?yes?

[James123]

3 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Looks familiar, no?yes?

Body born, correct.

But for You, nothing has ever happened. Same as before physical birth.

Know this, and know that any image is belongs to mind, body. 

Not You, never was.

[Mellowmarsh]

11 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

I am curious, how have you personally integrated nonduality and God realization ? It seems to me that the God realization people underestimate the importance of a permanent cessation of the separate sense of self. At the same time I sense the nonduality people can also still learn something from the God realization guys, ie perhaps there's some real deep validity to certain peak mystical states etc.

For me personally, I’ve simply unraveled myself until there was no more me.

 

To me personally…words that sound spiritual is just meaningless jargon, an artificially invented dogma that has no sense of meaning or purpose whatsoever. Words to me, are just a bunch of meaningless nonsense that I have used to build a sense of personal identity with, they have been something that has shaped my character, in the belief that this character is real. 
 

But I instinctively knew that character wasn’t real, that’s when I had to unravel it, and that’s all I did, without using any drug either. Never imbibed an hallucinogenic substance in my entire life. Didn’t need to. 

Edited 2 hours ago by Mellowmarsh

[Mellowmarsh]

7 minutes ago, James123 said:

Body born, correct.

But for You, nothing has ever happened. Same as before physical birth.

Know this, and know that any image is belongs to mind, body. 

Not You, never was.

Beautiful James, just as I understand it too. Thanks for all you do here at the forum. 
 

Well not you per se, but you understand. 😉

[James123]

10 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Well not you per se, but you understand. 😉

Yeah, yeah. Hell yeah.

You got it.