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[Inliytened1]

11 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Seeing women accurately for a man is very challenging.

Truly requires psychedelics.

The male self-bias is just too strong.

Still haven't figured it out yet i guess  well- its not the size of the boat but it is the motion of the ocean.  A decent size boat does help. 

Edited 3 hours ago by Inliytened1

[Xonas Pitfall]

15 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Seeing women accurately for a man is very challenging.

Truly requires psychedelics.

The male self-bias is just too strong.

I'd actually be incredibly curious to see why this happens and what the whole "ego construct" behind this phenomenon is.

From my observation, men seem to have this weird duality where, on one end, they see women as "other": beautiful, pure, open, expressive, emotionally fluid, a need, almost like this thing that has control over them, which annoys them yet also entrances them because of the beauty.

Yet, on the other end, there is this huge side who seem to genuinely feel that, compared to them, women are simply more childish, emotional, misguided, or not smart enough to be regarded on the same level. Or, even if they don't outright believe or say that, there often seems to be this underlying dynamic where "masculine traits" are viewed as being above "feminine traits." It can subtly and subconsciously creep into the way they think or perceive women.

I don't know, but it can be quite a confusing construct.

Edited 3 hours ago by Xonas Pitfall

[Inliytened1]

2 minutes ago, Xonas Pitfall said:

I'd actually be incredibly curious to see why this happens and what the whole "ego construct" behind this phenomenon is.

From my observation, men seem to have this weird duality where, on one end, they see women as "other": beautiful, pure, and extremely attractive, a need, almost like this thing that has control over them, which annoys them yet also entrances them because of the beauty.

Yet, on the other end, there is this huge side who seem to genuinely feel that, compared to them, women are simply more childish, emotional, misguided, or not smart enough to be regarded on the same level. Or, even if they don't outright believe or say that, there often seems to be this underlying dynamic where "masculine traits" are viewed as being above "feminine traits." It can subtly and subconsciously creep into the way they think or perceive women.

I don't know, but it can be quite a confusing construct.

That's kinda weird who thinks like that? When I walk up to a woman i expect whatever I might get. A brilliant mind or a so so mind.   Most women are extremely intelligent. So. Yeah that's a weird thing you got going on.  

[Xonas Pitfall]

3 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

That's kinda weird who thinks like that? When I walk up to a woman i expect whatever I might get. A brilliant mind or a so so mind.   Most women are extremely intelligent. So. Yeah that's a weird thing you got going on.  

Sorry! To clarify, I don't believe this at all. These are just some of the observations and contrasts I've seen expressed, or common biases that seem to arise.

You see men looking down on the very same traits they wish to see in women, or shaming the very traits they actually desire.

A healthy mind thinks like you do. I was just commenting on the possible biases and ego constructs that might arise, and exploring why or how they might develop.

Edited 3 hours ago by Xonas Pitfall

[Inliytened1]

2 minutes ago, Xonas Pitfall said:

Sorry! To clarify, I don't believe this at all. These are just some of the observations and contrasts I've seen expressed, or common biases that seem to arise.

You see men looking down on the very same traits they wish to see in women, or shaming the very traits they actually desire.

Ahh gotcha.  Yes they have arised in the past like that.  It used to be so backwards.  A woman would really take a back seat. Now they drive 😀

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Inliytened1 said:

And how did you see them in such a state? Christ this is juicer than alien minds.

I figured out how their psyche works just by imagining the world through their eyes.

54 minutes ago, Xonas Pitfall said:

I'd actually be incredibly curious to see why this happens and what the whole "ego construct" behind this phenomenon is.

From my observation, men seem to have this weird duality where, on one end, they see women as "other": beautiful, pure, open, expressive,

Men are not even trying to see the world from a woman's point of view. They don't care to. They only see women as men need them, not for themselves.

Contemplate how you would see the world if you were a woman, not a man. Imagine what your needs and desires would be.

Edited 2 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Inliytened1]

9 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I figured out how their psyche works just by imagining the world through their eyes.

 

I just wanna know how to keep em. I don't care what it is like to look through their eyes. I like having a dick.

Edited 2 hours ago by Inliytened1

[JoshB]

37 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

I just wanna know how to keep em. I don't care what it is like to look through their eyes. I like having a dick.

Thats a part of the problem. To keep them you gotta understand what its like to look out of their eyes. 

Why would someone want to stay with someone who doesnt care to see from their perspective? 

In fact its repellent

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[JoshB]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Seeing women accurately for a man is very challenging.

Truly requires psychedelics.

The male self-bias is just too strong.

Pertaining to women I truly realized on psychedelics that samadhi beats an orgasm everytime 

Edited 1 hour ago by JoshB

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, JoshB said:

Pertaining to women I truly realized on psychedelics that samadhi beats an orgasm everytime 

You guys are so full of shit 

[JoshB]

2 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

You guys are so full of shit 

Some of my best trips and awakenings was realizing the feminine aspects of God / Conciousness. This is foolishness

Edited 1 hour ago by JoshB

[Leo Gura]

52 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

I just wanna know how to keep em. I don't care what it is like to look through their eyes. I like having a dick.

That's exactly what I said. You are not interested in understanding, you have some male agenda, which means you will keep misunderstanding them.

To understand a thing requires seeing it as it is for itself, not for you.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

14 minutes ago, JoshB said:

Pertaining to women I truly realized on psychedelics that samadhi beats an orgasm everytime 

Not gonna lie - I have had such intense, single pointed focus meditation sessions where all is so married in union it was the bliss of orgasm. After I really considered orgasm; it is a pure state of absolute being. Total single pointed focus. Irrefutable. A total inability to seperate mind in that state. 

It makes sense the deepest state of focussed meditation feel like orgasm, somehow. I shit you not, the feeling was the same. And so utterly shocking.

It is a practice to reach those states though. I cannot get there without a lot of dedicated time. A purge of modern life does it. Isolation.

It is no wander sex and orgasm is a huge drive for humanity if this is what we touch on. Who knows ...

Edited 1 hour ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[Leo Gura]

14 minutes ago, JoshB said:

Pertaining to women I truly realized on psychedelics that samadhi beats an orgasm everytime 

Well, God is a higher joy than sex.

[JoshB]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

Well, God is a higher joy than sex.

Ofc no amount of pleasure can beat formless infinite love 

[JoshB]

@Natasha Tori Maru @Leo Gura ive never cried in bliss at an orgasm, but ive sure as shit have cried when I realized other is me.

Being Her will always be better then fucking Her. ☺️

Edited 1 hour ago by JoshB

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Oh you boys! Trying to reach God through a woman! 😋 

I love men, can't lie 😍 

[Inliytened1]

4 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

That's exactly what I said. You are not interested in understanding, you have some male agenda, which means you will keep misunderstanding them.

To understand a thing requires seeing it as it is for itself, not for you.

If understanding them required you to turn gay would you. You see my dilemma here. I don't think its this complicated.  I don't think you need to become them. You just have to pleasure them right and they will return.

[JoshB]

7 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Oh you boys! Trying to reach God through a woman! 😋 

I love men, can't lie 😍 

The collapse of the duality of feminine vs masculine is truly a breath taking thing. 

God is non binary 

Edited 1 hour ago by JoshB

[JoshB]

2 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

If understanding them required you to turn gay would you. You see my dilemma here. I don't think its this complicated.  I don't think you need to become them. You just have to pleasure them right and they will return.

You can understand them through being. And be a straight hetero male. In fact this raises your masculinity. Because youre comfortable being feminine / vulnerable.