I Became Spiritual Without Wanting It—I Followed The Path of Awakening Blindly

[gettoefl]

3 minutes ago, eTorro said:

But there are benefits to being way more conscious. You forgive everyone, including the ones who 'harmed' you at some point in your life or scammed you. There's no condemnation of people. I kept forgiving. I do not judge. I do not impose myself on people. So? Why am I wrong? I don't plan to hurt people because I don't want to be a Zen devil.

You ended up in a good place yes. But you gave yourself wounds and trauma by mistreating yourself and sacrificing the joys of life. If these are not resolved, the good place will turn into the hellish place. Pain is not the way to go in my opinion.

[Hojo]

When you awaken it feels like you are atlas putting the earth down after holding onto it for a long time. You will feel yourself starting to fly.

[Elliott]

That's dissociation not spirituality 

 

https://www.popsci.com/health/meditation-pyschosis-rare/

Jun 21, 2021 — For a select few, it may lead to psychosis. Meditation has a very real effect on the brain—and for some people, there are side effects involved

Edited 1 hour ago by Elliott

[eTorro]

15 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

You ended up in a good place yes. But you gave yourself wounds and trauma by mistreating yourself and sacrificing the joys of life. If these are not resolved, the good place will turn into the hellish place. Pain is not the way to go in my opinion.

Right now, I have no wounds whatsoever. It felt painful before awakening to my true nature and during the process. But those were healed as awareness crept in—I could sense how the pain subsided. I did not have to heal myself—the higher level of consciousness did that for me.

And I remember how much pain I was in before starting to meditate: Toxic shame, insecurity, no discipline whatsoever, and unable to keep a basic job. I was addicted to social media, junk food, weed, and so forth. All that had to go away, or my life would have been ruined.

While it is true that I sacrificed my ego and other forms of pleasure, that doesn't mean I lost something. Because the bliss of awareness is much more enjoyable than anything in the world or of the ego.

I'm not saying that all people should do what I did; I am only saying that force was necessary sometimes, and that it's no easy game to overcome the ego.

And the way I see it now is that it's not a tragedy or something bad that happened to me. I see it as a little bit of ego an struggle. That's it.

3 minutes ago, Elliott said:

https://www.popsci.com/health/meditation-pyschosis-rare/

Jun 21, 2021 — For a select few, it may lead to psychosis. Meditation has a very real effect on the brain—and for some people, there are side effects involved

And that's true, Elliott. For some people, because they struggle with heavy mental health issues, they will experience horrible side effects as a result of meditating. But they can be transcended and eventually healed. I went through that because I come from both families with harsh intergenerational trauma. My grandfather committed suicide.

Edited 1 hour ago by eTorro

[Elliott]

Just now, eTorro said:

 

And that's true, Elliott. For some people, because they struggle with heavy mental health issues, they will experience horrible side effects. But they can be transcended and eventually healed.

Meditation can cause psychosis in people without mental illness, especially when done so much.

[eTorro]

5 minutes ago, Elliott said:

Meditation can cause psychosis in people without mental illness, especially when done so much.

I agree. I experienced some heavy things, but I wasn't scared of any. I faced all the sh*t. I was letting go of it until my mind calmed down.

If anyone struggles with the dark side of meditation, ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT THERE IS A WAY OUT. DON'T GIVE UP HOPE. KEEP LETTING GO, RELAX, AND KEEP IN MIND THAT THE HEAVY STUFF WILL PASS. YOUR MIND WILL RESET ITSELF. DON'T BELIEVE THE ONES WHO SAY THAT THERE IS NO WAY OUT. HEALING IS ACHIEVABLE, NO MATTER HOW DARK IT SEEMS OR FEELS.

Edited 1 hour ago by eTorro

[Breakingthewall]

7 minutes ago, eTorro said:

And I remember how much pain I was in before starting to meditate: Toxic shame, insecurity, no discipline whatsoever, and unable to keep a basic job. I was addicted to social media, junk food, weed, and so forth. All that had to go away, or my life would have been ruined.

While it is true that I sacrificed my ego and other forms of pleasure, that doesn't mean I lost something. Because the bliss of awareness is much more enjoyable than anything in the world or of the ego.

34 minutes ago, eTorro said:

 

57 minutes ago, eTorro said:

 

Sounds very real. For me was the same, I was living in a state of anxiety and mental oppression that would destroy me. Like it was a war in my mind without a second of peace 

[Joseph Maynor]

It depends on how you do meditation.  Meditation is extremely healthy to me, but I don't do anything fancy with meditation.  

[gettoefl]

37 minutes ago, eTorro said:

Right now, I have no wounds whatsoever. It felt painful before awakening to my true nature and during the process. But those were healed as awareness crept in—I could sense how the pain subsided. I did not have to heal myself—the higher level of consciousness did that for me.

And I remember how much pain I was in before starting to meditate: Toxic shame, insecurity, no discipline whatsoever, and unable to keep a basic job. I was addicted to social media, junk food, weed, and so forth. All that had to go away, or my life would have been ruined.

While it is true that I sacrificed my ego and other forms of pleasure, that doesn't mean I lost something. Because the bliss of awareness is much more enjoyable than anything in the world or of the ego.

I'm not saying that all people should do what I did; I am only saying that force was necessary sometimes, and that it's no easy game to overcome the ego.

And the way I see it now is that it's not a tragedy or something bad that happened to me. I see it as a little bit of ego an struggle. That's it.

 

 

Yes this is good. The original post makes it seem you became spiritual on a whim, for no reason. You did it to escape pain. You found the solution.

[James123]

57 minutes ago, eTorro said:

I agree. I experienced some heavy things, but I wasn't scared of any. I faced all the sh*t. I was letting go of it until my mind calmed down.

If anyone struggles with the dark side of meditation, ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT THERE IS A WAY OUT. DON'T GIVE UP HOPE. KEEP LETTING GO, RELAX, AND KEEP IN MIND THAT THE HEAVY STUFF WILL PASS. YOUR MIND WILL RESET ITSELF. DON'T BELIEVE THE ONES WHO SAY THAT THERE IS NO WAY OUT. HEALING IS ACHIEVABLE, NO MATTER HOW DARK IT SEEMS OR FEELS.

One of the best way to calm, actually not calm, free the mind is, deeply knowing this, no one is in the body. Try, you would love it.

I do 😂 

 

Edited 23 minutes ago by James123