Women are attracted to emotional guys

[Natasha Tori Maru]

42 minutes ago, MarkKol said:

Get a quick prescription for 5mg Cialis/tadalafil and take it every day for years if need be, no missed opportunities, that's it.

The fuck, that escalated from some general interpersonal development advice to taking drugs lol

[Miguel1]

3 hours ago, Davino said:

Thanks for this question, it has been the key to some great insights.

Feel free to share them with us!

[StaraX]

22 hours ago, AION said:

The fall of the patriarchy has benefitted the alpha men the most. They get the fuck around without commitment. 

The group that lost the most with the fall of the patriarchy is the low tier men and even the average men. I have friends who have a good career and lifestyle but they can't find a women to save their lives. Because just having those things is not enough to get a women anymore,one needs game too. And although they are university degree smart they can't figure out game.

Another group that lost with the fall of the patriarchy is the average women. They all have this anthem "I won't settle for less" in other words I'm an average women and I won't settle for an average men. That kind of egocentrism will bite these women so hard in the ass. It will cause a demographic collapse very soon. Therapy, cats and cat food prices will skyrocket though.

 

Promoting red pill dating ideology is obviously forbidden on this forum. However, do y'all agree that it is the closest dating ideology to the TRUTH and the realities of mating? If we just narrow it down a bit and focus on the content of the ideology, not the toxicity of it.

The post above from @AION is the heart of the red pill, and I agree with the post. My question, basically, is: are we criticizing only the hate toward women in the red pill ideology on this forum? Because what I've discovered in the past 3–4 years on this forum is that all the members with thousands of approaches (including Leo) under their belts have a very close analysis of dating to the red pill and also to the black pill to extent, only without the toxic, misogynistic ideological part. 

So, out of all the dating ideologies out there, is the red pill the closest to the TRUTH?

[Ulax]

44 minutes ago, StaraX said:

Promoting red pill dating ideology is obviously forbidden on this forum. However, do y'all agree that it is the closest dating ideology to the TRUTH and the realities of mating? If we just narrow it down a bit and focus on the content of the ideology, not the toxicity of it.

The post above from @AION is the heart of the red pill, and I agree with the post. My question, basically, is: are we criticizing only the hate toward women in the red pill ideology on this forum? Because what I've discovered in the past 3–4 years on this forum is that all the members with thousands of approaches (including Leo) under their belts have a very close analysis of dating to the red pill and also to the black pill to extent, only without the toxic, misogynistic ideological part. 

So, out of all the dating ideologies out there, is the red pill the closest to the TRUTH?

No. Pickup is way closer to the truth than red pill. I mean its night and day.

Red pill has some very good parts but also a lot of circle-jerk theorising to it.

The major difference is pickup theory is derived from guys going out, trying stuff and seeing what worked. Then making theories based on those real-world experiences.

Red pill is a lot more abstract theorising. And that lack of real world experience is bound to lead to more deluded theory.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

No. Red pill is not truth. 

It takes elements of systems, reduces them down, and tries to form a neat little explanation. Some of the core tenants of red pill have truth in them.

But like anything - the truth arrives with a whole bunch of horsehit in tow.

And red pill lacks nuance and doesn't account for huge systems that can explain behaviour.

 The worst part about it, is if you operate from that paradigm, you end up with your own self fulfilling prophecy of endless recursive confirmation bias.

At it's core red pill is just an extreme cognitive bias.

Edited 1 hour ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[AION]

1 hour ago, StaraX said:

Promoting red pill dating ideology is obviously forbidden on this forum. However, do y'all agree that it is the closest dating ideology to the TRUTH and the realities of mating? If we just narrow it down a bit and focus on the content of the ideology, not the toxicity of it.

The post above from @AION is the heart of the red pill, and I agree with the post. My question, basically, is: are we criticizing only the hate toward women in the red pill ideology on this forum? Because what I've discovered in the past 3–4 years on this forum is that all the members with thousands of approaches (including Leo) under their belts have a very close analysis of dating to the red pill and also to the black pill to extent, only without the toxic, misogynistic ideological part. 

So, out of all the dating ideologies out there, is the red pill the closest to the TRUTH?

Thanks but I still water down the truth so it is palpable for the riff-raff on this forum. 

What people don't get is that there is a grain of truth in extremist trends like red pill.

And as long as we deny those grains of truths, the problem will only get bigger.

From my own observations, the single biggest problem of men today is that they listen to the mat-rix (mat-riarchy). 

 

[StaraX]

40 minutes ago, Ulax said:

No. Pickup is way closer to the truth than red pill. I mean its night and day.

Red pill has some very good parts but also a lot of circle-jerk theorising to it.

The major difference is pickup theory is derived from guys going out, trying stuff and seeing what worked. Then making theories based on those real-world experiences.

Red pill is a lot more abstract theorising. And that lack of real world experience is bound to lead to more deluded theory.

@Ulax Yeah, but pickup is much narrower than the red pill and also much more technical. The red pill is a very broad dating ideology. 

Both dating ideologies put emphasis on a growth mindset, that you can attract higher-quality women through self-improvement. However, the red pill puts more emphasis on the "big things": status, fame, wealth, looks, etc. 

Also, to what extent do pickup and the red pill differ when it comes to analyzing female psychology and behavior in the dating market?