I find it very hard to remove the idea that im biological being

[Nevon]

As per title, im doing guide exersice realizing im god, yes in this absolute presence experience it indeed became very strange, its just a mysterious divine bubble of screen appear out of nowhere, but again my logical mind just couldn't let go the idea of im was born and im a biological being,my mind came out alot of reason to convince me i was born for example what if my mom show me a video that i came out from her virgina, isn't that a concrete proof that i was born?

But again in my absolute presence experience i do not have the experience being born, im only notice my entire experience just mysteriously appear, in Leo guided exersice works are we suppose to deny past even exist? Although we seems like did live through the past.

 

Pls help me understand this

Edited 3 hours ago by Nevon

[Hojo]

@Nevon Where you think you are in your head is actually not there. You are in front in the field where you see everything that isnt you. Your body is there but your not in it when you close your eyes you are reality closing itself off from the vision of your body. Not vision being closed off from reality.

Your mom could have a video of your body coming out of the vagina but it dosent matter because while your mother gave birth she didnt give birth to you.

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[Nevon]

2 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Nevon Where you think you are in your head is actually not there. You are in front in the field where you see everything that isnt you.

I already strips away the idea my existence generate from my head

 

What I'm saying is, when i look at my hand or body,what if i cut open it and it has flesh and bone,its seem very biological too me,and to strip away the idea that im not a biological being it contradict from what i actually see.

[Hojo]

@Nevon You are like the empty space between objects. That hands not yours. Its a part of the Earth. The hand is still biological but the biology of the human body is like a computer.

Edited 2 hours ago by Hojo

[Nevon]

7 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Nevon You are like the empty space between objects. That hands not yours. Its a part of the Earth.

According to leo works, the idea of your entire quote need to be strips as well, it's just a concept and belief, the distinction of space and body its just illusion, if you look closely it's actually one unified field. 

[Inliytened1]

43 minutes ago, Nevon said:

As per title, im doing guide exersice realizing im god, yes in this absolute presence experience it indeed became very strange, its just a mysterious divine bubble of screen appear out of nowhere, but again my logical mind just couldn't let go the idea of im was born and im a biological being,my mind came out alot of reason to convince me i was born for example what if my mom show me a video that i came out from her virgina, isn't that a concrete proof that i was born?

But again in my absolute presence experience i do not have the experience being born, im only notice my entire experience just mysteriously appear, in Leo guided exersice works are we suppose to deny past even exist? Although we seems like did live through the past.

 

Pls help me understand this

Try self inquiry. That's what cracked the egg of enlightenment for me. What do you currently believe you are? At your core? What are you? Lets go from there i will walk you through it  hell maybe ill awaken someone else along the way too 

[Hojo]

@Nevon Yes, the space between you and objects isnt there, thats there so you can pretend to be a specific character. When you see you are the space between you and objects you see you are nothing and the entire field merges together like a VR headset. or a painting You arent there you are outside of the game looking in, or an observer of a painting on wall. When the painting goes away its just a brain dead retard looking at nothing.

So what you truly are is a brain dead retard looking at nothing. You are also hyper intelligent. So intelligent you can remain a brain dead retard and make everything work.

God or you is a hyper intelligent brain dead retard in a void.

You can see it just close your eyes and stop thinking.

Isnt it really funny?

When you close your eyes and stop thinking all you see is a brain dead retard?

Edited 2 hours ago by Hojo

[Leo Gura]

Yeah, it is quite challenging to deconstruct the sense of being human. If it was easy then no one would feel human.

Realistically, it requires a psychedelic or insane amounts of meditation.

You are overlooking that you are imagining all of history and time.

"I came out of my mother" is also imaginary. However, it takes a very high state of consciousness to see it as imaginary.

Without the psychedelic you are stuck inside of history and time. The psychedelic will break you out that.

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[Inliytened1]

10 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

 

Realistically, it requires a psychedelic or insane amounts of meditation.

 

That is such crap. All you need is sincere self inquiry. 

[Nevon]

27 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Try self inquiry. That's what cracked the egg of enlightenment for me. What do you currently believe you are? At your core? What are you? Lets go from there i will walk you through it  hell maybe ill awaken someone else along the way too 

Right now im at this stage of identifying my entire experience as consciousness

My ego sense of self it just a abstract concept,im not able to pin point where is it,

And i notice how mysterious of consciousness able to do, im realize my reality that constantly morphing into different experience,  real life waking state, dream state, deep sleep state, psychedelic state, and others, it's just constantly shifting into different experience,and this "thing" has no beginning and no end, its always here and now, even if i my physical body die, my consciousness light out, it just consciousness morphing into another state

Im noticing im eternal being, im god, god can literally imagine anything into existence, just take a look at dream state

 

But again, i look at myself, i also noticing im this body, im unable to deny im not this body, whatever idea is it , it doesnt change the fact that im stuck with this body,im forced to go though this human experience , it feel very biological to me.

 

[Inliytened1]

7 minutes ago, Nevon said:

Right now im at this stage of identifying my entire experience as consciousness

My ego sense of self it just a abstract concept,im not able to pin point where is it,

And i notice how mysterious of consciousness able to do, im realize my reality that constantly morphing into different experience,  real life waking state, dream state, deep sleep state, psychedelic state, and others, it's just constantly shifting into different experience,and this "thing" has no beginning and no end, its always here and now, even if i my physical body die, my consciousness light out, it just consciousness morphing into another state

Im noticing im eternal being, im god, god can literally imagine anything into existence, just take a look at dream state

 

But again, i look at myself, i also noticing im this body, im unable to deny im not this body, whatever idea is it , it doesnt change the fact that im stuck with this body,im forced to go though this human experience , it feel very biological to me.

 

No no. We are just doing self inquiry now. So focus.  What do you believe you are today? What do you hold yourself as.  If its an image in your mind that is  fine too. Just answer it 

[Hojo]

15 minutes ago, Nevon said:

Right now im at this stage of identifying my entire experience as consciousness

My ego sense of self it just a abstract concept,im not able to pin point where is it,

And i notice how mysterious of consciousness able to do, im realize my reality that constantly morphing into different experience,  real life waking state, dream state, deep sleep state, psychedelic state, and others, it's just constantly shifting into different experience,and this "thing" has no beginning and no end, its always here and now, even if i my physical body die, my consciousness light out, it just consciousness morphing into another state

Im noticing im eternal being, im god, god can literally imagine anything into existence, just take a look at dream state

 

But again, i look at myself, i also noticing im this body, im unable to deny im not this body, whatever idea is it , it doesnt change the fact that im stuck with this body,im forced to go though this human experience , it feel very biological to me.

 

Try to look behind you without turning your head with your eyes open.

Edited 1 hour ago by Hojo

[Nevon]

1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said:

No no. We are just doing self inquiry now. So focus.  What do you believe you are today? What do you hold yourself as.  If its an image in your mind that is  fine too. Just answer it 

At my current stage, honestly i don't know,i can go very radical like strips away all the idea and concepts, only left this raw reality without concepts, 

I belief im this reality, entire field of existance.

[Yimpa]

55 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

 

Realistically, it requires a psychedelic or insane amounts of meditation.

 

44 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

That is such crap. All you need is sincere self inquiry. 

From my POV, my winning formula is doing all 3: being alone + weed + setting the intention “show me god!”

[Inliytened1]

3 minutes ago, Nevon said:

At my current stage, honestly i don't know,i can go very radical like strips away all the idea and concepts, only left this raw reality without concepts, 

I belief im this reality, entire field of existance.

I'm not asking you that. Its quite simple- but the ego mind likes to pile loads of crap on top.  I just want you to think for a second and answer me.  What are you? If its nothing that's fine but I don't believe you. You believe yourself to be some type of entity so I want you to hone in on that 

[Nevon]

1 minute ago, Hojo said:

Try to look behind you without turning your head with your eyes open.

In my presence experience, there is no such thing as "behind" everything it just like a desktop interface, flip inside out,

Are you talking about outside of the bubble? 

[Nevon]

3 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

I'm not asking you that. Its quite simple- but the ego mind likes to pile loads of crap on top.  I just want you to think for a second and answer me.  What are you? If its nothing that's fine but I don't believe you. You believe yourself to be some type of entity so I want you to hone in on that 

Im not trying to belief im some sort of entity, im at this stage pretty much drop down alot of concept and belief system, im operate through direct experience, if you ask me what am i, i only can observe what is happening right now and tell you base on my direct experience 

 

So what am i? ,im this field of existance and there's a body, this is my answer

[Inliytened1]

2 minutes ago, Nevon said:

Im not trying to belief im some sort of entity, im at this stage pretty much drop down alot of concept and belief system, im operate through direct experience, if you ask me what am i, i only can observe what is happening right now and tell you base on my direct experience 

 

So what am i? ,im this field of existance and there's a body, this is my answer

Ok. Good so you are the body. Yet if u cut off your arm does part of you leave? I mean if you are the body it would suggest that 

Edited 1 hour ago by Inliytened1

[Inliytened1]

Well let me ask you are you the field of existence or are you the body. We can explore both. 

[Nevon]

2 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Ok. Good so you are the body. Yet if u cut off your arm does part of you leave? I mean if you are the body it would suggest that 

I see where you going, im have been through this over and over again for the past 10 year

 

Im saying im this field of experience= consciousness and there is a body which is also consciousness , even if u use samurai katana chop me into pieces, my body may disappear, but my consciousness is still here eternally, it just light out (consciousness morphing into another state)