Leo, how is your dream still intact.

[UnbornTao]

47 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Its not that.  But he has gone mad. At least I feel he has ever since his alien realizations.

If anything, this alien business has proven how gullible most people are. They'll eat up anything that sounds remotely spiritual and transcendental, with no real interest in asking what's actually going on for the person claiming such things.

If certain terminology that agrees with you is used, then it must be true.

Before taking people's word for it, pay attention to his failure to record such a video. The implications of that failure are bigger than you think.

[Inliytened1]

3 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

If anything, this alien business has proven how gullible most people are. They'll eat up anything that sounds remotely spiritual and transcendental, with no real interest in asking what's actually going on for the person claiming such things.

If certain terminology that agrees with you is used, then it must be true.

Before taking people's word for it, pay attention to his failure to record such a video. The implications of that failure are bigger than you think.

Thats exactly right. 

[Miguel1]

1 hour ago, cetus said:

The issue here is when someone talks over someone's head it can cause distance instead of connection.

Happens too often in a place like this.

[Yimpa]

We’re all in different states / dreams. Even the stateless state is a state.

[Inliytened1]

6 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

We’re all in different states / dreams. Even the stateless state is a state.

We are in the same dream 

[UnbornTao]

1 hour ago, Inliytened1 said:

Thats exactly right. 

Tell the others, then. Especially the ones who believe Leo.

You'd have to have as many awakenings as me to discern charlatans, and I'm not kidding. What I'm talking about is way beyond a psychedelic state.

You think I'm playing games with you.

Edited 1 hour ago by UnbornTao

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, UnbornTao said:

Tell the others, then.

Especially to the ones who believe Leo. 

He means well.  Unfortunately we cannot awaken the masses.

[UnbornTao]

1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said:

He means well.  Unfortunately we cannot awaken the masses.

No awakening needed for not being a gullible fool.

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, UnbornTao said:

No awakening needed for not being a gullible fool.

A gullible fool for what. Exactly where has Leo gone wrong.  Yet. 

[zurew]

4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

What I am pointing to when I say God-Realization is so advanced that an enlightened human cannot even imagine it.

You do not understand what I am pointing to. I am not pointing to enlightenment. I do not care about enlightenment or whatever Ralston teaches.

You do not understand your own claims, since you couldn't deliver on any of them.

To be extremely clear on this, you haven't delivered once on your miracle claims or your alien transformation claim, and you still refuse to adjust your claims or your credence regarding those claims.

You pretend to know much more than you actually do. If you knew how this shit worked, you would have already delivered on your claims and wouldn't just talk big with 0 results after years of failure.

The only thing we have seen so far from you is you talking grandiose about yourself, you making excuses and delivering 0 empirical results with respect to your empirical claims. But sure, sure—we are the ones who don't know what we are talking about, while you do. That's why, once again, you haven't demonstrated shit yet.

 

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How about you guys chill and just trust me on this?

I will show you Alien Awakening that will absolutely blow your mind. When I finally post it on Youtube, people's jaws will drop. My Awakening will contradict 5000 years of spiritual teaching. And it won't just be words, you will visually see me morph into an Alien Intelligence. And if I don't, then you can call out my bullshit.

Until then, sit tight.

I guess we are in the infinitely "sit tight" period and you are in the "I will make infinite excuses why I cant deliver on my own claims and I will infinitely weasel my way out of my own standards" period, right?

Anything but having the spine and the epistemic responsibility to own up to your own claims and to your own standards.

The camera was the issue and not your lack of understanding of how reality works, right?

Edited 16 minutes ago by zurew

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, zurew said:

You do not understand your own claims, since you couldnt deliver anything on them.

To be extremely clear on this, you havent deliver once on your miracle claims or your alien transformation claim and you still refuse to adjust your claims or your credence regarding your claims.

You pretend to know much more than what you know - if you would know how this shit works, you would have already delivered on your claims and wouldnt just talk big with 0 results.

The only thing we have seen so far from you is you making excuses and delivering 0 empirical results with respect your empirical claims - but sure sure, we are the ones who dont know what we are talking about but you do - thats why again you havent demonstrated shit yet.

I guess we are in the infinitely "sit tight" period and you are in the "I will make infinite excuses why I cant deliver on my own claims and I will infinitely weasel my way out of my own standards" period, right?

The camera was the issue and not your lack of understanding of how reality works, right?

The gig is up.  Happy? 

[Yimpa]

38 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

We are in the same dream 

If that were the case, then everyone would be transgender, which is obviously not the case.

This is just one example, just in the human domain no less.

Edited 38 minutes ago by Yimpa

[Inliytened1]

4 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

If that were the case, then everyone would be transgender, which is obviously not the case.

This is just one example, just in the human domain no less.

Everyone is  It is just ego that makes you want to differentiate.  

[zurew]

1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said:

Happy? 

No.

This shit unironically feels like debating a drugged-up person in the park who is talking grandiosely and having a psychosis.

[Inliytened1]

7 minutes ago, zurew said:

No.

This shit unironically feels like debating a drugged-up person in the park who is talking grandiosely and having a psychosis.

Yep  and that's all it is 

[Inliytened1]

1 hour ago, UnbornTao said:

Tell the others, then. Especially the ones who believe Leo.

You'd have to have as many awakenings as me to discern charlatans, and I'm not kidding. What I'm talking about is way beyond a psychedelic state.

You think I'm playing games with you.

Now you sound just like him. So I hope you were playing. If not we are all in way deeper than I first thought. 

Edited 7 minutes ago by Inliytened1

[zurew]

4 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Yep  and that's all it is 

Unfortunately, it's not all it is, because there are a bunch of mods here and non-mods who don't just enable this but even support it.

I respect you for calling this out for what it is, but again, we have a bunch of mini-Leos here having their never-ending Leo ticks: "thinking for themselves" and "being open-minded" (which, in practice, just means employing all the Leo rhetoric to exclusively enforce all the Leo Gura dogmas).

None of these people have any clear, principled stance on open-mindedness. Their "open-mindedness" only applies to Leo, where anything goes. But if there were any other person here who disagreed with Leo and employed the exact same tactics to enforce their own spiritual views, all of these people would label that person "closed-minded."