So I awakened to the Highest Truth Again

[Wilhelm44]

23 minutes ago, James123 said:

when there is no attachment to thoughts even for a second entire universe dissolves.

You mean like cessation ?

[James123]

6 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

You mean like cessation ?

Like in deep sleep, in that moment, there is no universe, or before physical birth.

Same as awake, just body moves / mind thinks, experiences. 

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, Wilhelm44 said:

What would you call the appearance of things ?

Is it not nothingness/emptiness appearing as everythingness ?

The appearance of things are possibilities that are possible happening. 

Don't you see the mistake in calling them "nothingness" or "appearances" when those concepts are ideas that appears in the comparative mind? Adjectives, valorations. 

You can open yourself to your total nature, but describing the reality as unreal and saying that this is enlightenment is absolute nonsense. 

[Breakingthewall]

@Wilhelm44 I wrote this in the psychedelics forum. Imo is a good description 

 

In my opinion, the goal of a psychedelic trip is the opening of your energetic structure, the breaking of the blockage in which every human lives. 

The goal is total openness, and when it happens, there are no intellectual deductions like knowing that you are God, that you create reality, that you do it for certain reasons, but rather, at a given moment, you are total. 

Contraction within you is zero, nothing limits you, not the idea of God, not love, nothing. Total. In that state, your body vibrates and the hair on your head seems to be receiving an electric shock, the eyes of your mind are open 360 degrees, and there is only one thing you can know: you are. And what does being imply: Everything.

There is nothing more to know; you are absolutely omniscient, since you know absolutely everything: you are. There is nothing more to know, since that is everything. 

The joy that floods you is absolutely perfect; all the twisted filaments of your psyche are absolutely straight, like lines of escape to infinity. Your brain is functioning at full capacity, shinning , but its content is completely unstructured.

You are, period. And nothing, absolutely nothing, can be added to this. This is everything, and it is paradise, nirvana, the holy grail, the jack pot.  Not even your wildest dreams or most unrestrained imagination can come close. It is total.

Edited 8 hours ago by Breakingthewall

[Wilhelm44]

9 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

The appearance of things are possibilities that are possible happening. 

Don't you see the mistake in calling them "nothingness" or "appearances" when those concepts are ideas that appears in the comparative mind? Adjectives, valorations. 

You can open yourself to your total nature, but describing the reality as unreal and saying that this is enlightenment is absolute nonsense. 

I was thinking of 'nothingness' as being just another word for infinite shapeshifter.

Somehow it doesn't feel negative to me. There's beauty to it.

When Leo says, ur imagining all of this right now, how do you interpret that ?

 

 

[Wilhelm44]

17 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

there are no intellectual deductions like knowing that you are God

There are actually some similarities between what you're saying and what Jim Newman says.

But what specifically do you find people objecting to in that paragraph you wrote ?

(I'm not quite sure I understand your objections to no self though. It seems to link up nicely with solipsism also,)

[Wilhelm44]

31 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

In that state

You seem to be implying some mystical state as the goal ?

[Wilhelm44]

2 hours ago, James123 said:

Like in deep sleep, in that moment, there is no universe, or before physical birth.

Same as awake, just body moves / mind thinks, experiences. 

That's pretty cool, like you're being reset/refreshed in the middle of the day.

 

[James123]

1 hour ago, Wilhelm44 said:

That's pretty cool, like you're being reset/refreshed in the middle of the day.

 

It is Being always what You are, therefore resting as Sri Niagaradasti say.

[Wilhelm44]

9 minutes ago, James123 said:

It is Being always what You are, therefore resting as Sri Niagaradasti say.

🙂

[Breakingthewall]

5 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

When Leo says, ur imagining all of this right now, how do you interpret that ?

 

It's as if he thinks that God is an entity that does things like imagine, and does so for reasons like love or a desire to experience.

5 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

But what specifically do you find people objecting to in that paragraph you wrote ?

People says that enlightenment is knowing that you are god dreaming, or that self is illusion, or that reality is a dream. All that are valorations. Structures that the conceptual mind creates. Enlightenment is being open to the nature of reality, that's not knowing the structure of reality 

5 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

You seem to be implying some mystical state as the goal

Openess could be described as an state, name than being neurotic could be another state 

Edited 3 hours ago by Breakingthewall