Are You Aligned In Life?

[Natasha Tori Maru]

12 minutes ago, Miguel1 said:

@Natasha Tori Maru Your personality type changes every 6 months 

Like a true chameleon 😎

[bazera]

24 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I consider myself an ambivert.

Like, 50/50 introvert extrovert?

Not even 60/40? 

I also have extrovesion side but the main indicator that I differenciate those and the reason I identify myself as an introvert is that I get drained and tired with socialization easily and I crave alone time. But I don't crave much socialization when I'm in solutude, maybe rarely.

It's either introversion or some trauma and fear of going out, lol. But I don't really have a fear (I had in the past which solved with lots of socializing), so that has left me with just introversion.

Also, it's a phase thing, I had a more social phase, and I will gladly have those again in the future. It's important to distinguish fear vs introversion, many introverts are just inexperienced and lack social skills and justify those fears with the idea of introversion.

[Miguel1]

6 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Like a true chameleon 😎

I remember you typed INFJ. What did you type after that?

I also remember saying you remind me of an ENFJ, like a true chameleon 

[bazera]

Oh, I'm also INFJ, done that test multiple times throughout years and doesn't change much I guess 😅

They say it's the rarest personality type 😎

Don't know if that's a good thing though, lol.

[integral]

Cognitive functions are what matters with MBTI.

What are the subconscious questions that you're asking yourself? The default thinking process.

Quote

 

Thinking

Te — "Does this work? What's the most efficient way to get the measurable result?" (external logic: efficacy, structure, metrics)

Ti — "Is this true? Does it hold together by my own standard of precision?" (internal logic: consistency, accuracy, definitions)

Feeling

Fe — "Where's the group at? What does this situation call for, and is everyone okay?" (external value: harmony, appropriateness, attunement to others)

Fi — "Is this right? Does it align with what genuinely matters to me?" (internal value: authenticity, congruence, conscience)

Intuition

Ne — "What could this become? What else might it connect to?" (divergent: possibilities, tangents, reframings)

Ni — "What does this actually mean? Where is it all heading?" (convergent: underlying pattern, trajectory, the single insight behind the noise)

Sensing

Se — "What's here right now, and what can I do with it?" (immediate present, raw data, action)

Si — "How does this compare to what I already know? Is it consistent with before?" (stored experience, familiarity, reliability)

 

INFJ has 4 states 

Sleep = Ni + Ti

Blast = Ni + Fe

Play = Fe + Se

Consume = Ti + Se

Edited 56 minutes ago by integral

[Miguel1]

16 minutes ago, bazera said:

It's important to distinguish fear vs introversion, many introverts are just inexperienced and lack social skills and justify those fears with the idea of introversion.

Yep, it works with extroversion too. Are you actually an extrovert, or are you just scared of being alone, and with yourself?

[Miguel1]

@integral I’m definitely ENFJ based on this.

Ti, Fe, Ni, Se

My natural main function in any given social situation is to make sure everyone is good and the group has harmony.

[bazera]

1 minute ago, Miguel1 said:

Are you actually an extrovert, or are you just scared of being alone, and with yourself?

Yup, and that question can only be answered in solitude and reflection, not with other people. People can't tell you an answer to that question, maybe they can give directions, but responsibility it on self.

That's why it's important for introverts, extroverts and ambiverts to spend time in solitude and reflection, and ask questions like that.

But I think that reflective tendencies also come as some personality type or something (not depended on extroversion/introversion), as a separate variable, because I have some friends who don't give a shit about anything remotely similar to asking those kinds of questions, doesn't matter introvert or extrovert. And they sometimes try to ridicule me when I ask them to reflect on their life. 

[Miguel1]

16 minutes ago, bazera said:

But I think that reflective tendencies also come as some personality type or something (not depended on extroversion/introversion), as a separate variable, because I have some friends who don't give a shit about anything remotely similar to asking those kinds of questions, doesn't matter introvert or extrovert. And they sometimes try to ridicule me when I ask them to reflect on their life. 

Genes play the biggest part. Most people do not have a single care about the work that we do here, yet many of us here, view this work as more important than anything else in life, by far.

Why do some people care so much about pure understanding and truth, but most people do not?

As for whether I have reflected in solitude on my extroversion or not, I have done multiple solitude retreats in my life. I’ve done a couple 3 month retreats.

It is very clear to me that I am way more in my natural element being around people. Solitude is very beautiful too, and I want to practice it more. Just not right now.

Edited 35 minutes ago by Miguel1

[integral]

 

[bazera]

@integral Yeah that makes more sense than just binary intro vs extro.

But I think most people have incline toward focusing more on internal vs external worlds, but that might be caused with all sorts of variables that those types might not account for.

It's a tricky topic, surely it's possible to limit oneself with identifiying with one or the other your whole life, but for me, introversion descriptions resonate more with my personality and lifestyle than extroversion at the moment.