Jim Newman is really good.

[Wilhelm44]

3 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

Because I smell ego 

How so ?

[Wilhelm44]

6 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Ultimately, nothing is for sale.

If Gurus choose to sell nothing to people who are willingly consenting to purchase the nothing for sale, then that’s just the transactional nature of the human psyche, where both the teacher and the student mutually benefit from one another.

 

Eventually, it must dawn on everyone involved in the selling and buying of ‘nothing’ that the quid-pro-quo exchange is a completely harmless business, whereby, it’s easily recognised that no one is being forced against their will to buy into the greatest con humans have ever invented.

Enlightenment dawns for everyone in the selling and buying of nothing business when mutual agreement is attained by ultimately reaching the conclusion that a con can never con a con. Ultimately, it’s just all part of the big cosmic dance where it takes two to tango. At the end of the day, money for nothing is serious business.

 

All there is to do here after true enlightenment dawns, is die hard laughing. Because every one of us is born penniless and every one of us dies penniless. And no one was ever scammed. In fact everyone has already won the cosmic lottery by just being able to type these rather silly words on a computer screen. 🤓👍

It is funny though, paying someone else to find yourself

[Mellowmarsh]

1 hour ago, Wilhelm44 said:

It is funny though, paying someone else to find yourself

😂😂😂

[Sugarcoat]

14 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

How so ?

You can hear the audience during the "satsangs" or whatever they're called asking the same questions over and over when the speaker already made it clear. It comes off as desperate, hence "ego". 

Edited 18 hours ago by Sugarcoat

[Mellowmarsh]

13 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

You can hear the audience during the "satsangs" or whatever they're called asking the same questions over and over when the speaker already made it clear. It comes off as desperate, hence "ego". 

The smell of death is not so sweet. And yet it’s the sweet spot. 

[Wilhelm44]

1 hour ago, Sugarcoat said:

the "satsangs" or whatever they're called

Those events never actually happened

(That would be a brilliant defense in court, I'm sorry ur Honor, that never actually happened)

[Mellowmarsh]

28 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Those events never actually happened

(That would be a brilliant defense in court, I'm sorry ur Honor, that never actually happened)

Not happening happens. LoL 

[Wilhelm44]

2 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Not happening happens. LoL 

Yeah, it's like some part of me doesn't quite want to accept it, when Jim says: "It's all pure anarchy, and there's no one behind the wheel".

Does that mean concepts like predestination etc don't exist ?

[VeganAwake]

4 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Yeah, it's like some part of me doesn't quite want to accept it, when Jim says: "It's all pure anarchy, and there's no one behind the wheel".

Does that mean concepts like predestination etc don't exist ?

Totally,

That's what I refer to as conditioning.

Jim's not trying to put forth additional concepts to believe in........he is pointing out that anarchy is the best word to describe the apparent reality when all these beliefs/concepts are recognized as BS. 

Liberation isn't a new concept or belief or paradigm for someone to live by.

It's the end of the someone that seemed to identify and believe in those concepts altogether.

Even the concept that there must be an ultimate creator/controller (god) of everything collapses.

And that realization can be very unsettling.........Jim often talks about how terrifying it was initially.

[Wilhelm44]

9 minutes ago, VeganAwake said:

And that realization can be very unsettling.........Jim often talks about how terrifying it was initially.

How was it for you ?

[VeganAwake]

4 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

How was it for you ?

It also felt unsettling, like free floating or free falling, or being stuck between 2 realities for a while.

But it became very clear, very fast, that there just never was a "me" from the start.

There never was a VeganAwake character attached to all these conditioned concepts/beliefs......there seemed too be.....it was certainly assumed to be......but it wasn't really there.

It was an attachment to self referential thinking or identification as the thinker.

So it never was a certain way for "me" because "me" was an illusion.

Edited 4 hours ago by VeganAwake

[Inliytened1]

Newman is good but I doubt awake  if he truly had the no self realization he would know that there is more, and he doesn't. Study Ralston instead  

Edited 2 hours ago by Inliytened1

[Razard86]

I say study Leo. His videos along with Frank Yang did wonders for me. Many spiritual teachers helped me and people on the forums as well but eventually you gotta just create a state change and watch their videos and your Consciousness will do it for you.

Consciousness responds to language that's why you can have a spontaneous awakening from just hearing someone describe awakening or doing a guided meditation.

[Inliytened1]

6 minutes ago, Razard86 said:

I say study Leo. His videos along with Frank Yang did wonders for me. Many spiritual teachers helped me and people on the forums as well but eventually you gotta just create a state change and watch their videos and your Consciousness will do it for you.

Consciousness responds to language that's why you can have a spontaneous awakening from just hearing someone describe awakening or doing a guided meditation.

You are gifted but not everyone is. But I agree. Leo's videos were instrumental even if he at that time had to pop some pills to get it.  But Yang i don't know. Is his stuff on Leo's  level? I doubt it  Leo learned from Ralston that is why I recommended him and I read his book.  But Leo was all I needed because he already had Ralston within him 

Edited 21 minutes ago by Inliytened1