holy shit it's all a dream, i am all alone. I awoken.

[Someone here]

9 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

But if your sense of separate self is an illusion, does the same not apply to everyone else, or am I missing something ?

it applies to everyone else of course.

The most accurate position possible is to say there are no separate selves at all . Neither a separate me nor a separate you . All there is is this. In this actuality there is actually no "you" and no "other". If you try to pin point where or what exactly is" you" in direct experience and what is or where exactly is "other" you will fail miserably. Because this boundary is completely imaginary. It's all one thing. There is no you right here perceiving a world out there. It's all here. Here is there. You is the world.  So what you call other people are literally you. The entire actuality of what's showing up in consciousness right now is you. Not just what you are  identified with as your body. The entire field of consciousness is you. From this place there is neither  you nor a world as two separate things. There is only what is. And what is.. Is one unbroken actuality with no divisions. If you lose that awareness of clarity and revert back to thinking that I am me right here looking at the world out there.. Then a question might arise about the nature of the relationship between me and the world.. Am I projecting the world? Imagining it like a dream that has no reality outside my own experience? Or is it just there and I m merely perceiving it..?. But the whole question is based on a false sense of self that is separate from the whole.  People on this forum don’t think of it from this angle . They think I’m a separate human and others are separate humans ..so am I the only separate human who has consciousness?

 

[Wilhelm44]

43 minutes ago, Someone here said:

it applies to everyone else of course.

The most accurate position possible is to say there are no separate selves at all . Neither a separate me nor a separate you . All there is is this. In this actuality there is actually no "you" and no "other". If you try to pin point where or what exactly is" you" in direct experience and what is or where exactly is "other" you will fail miserably. Because this boundary is completely imaginary. It's all one thing. There is no you right here perceiving a world out there. It's all here. Here is there. You is the world.  So what you call other people are literally you. The entire actuality of what's showing up in consciousness right now is you. Not just what you are  identified with as your body. The entire field of consciousness is you. From this place there is neither  you nor a world as two separate things. There is only what is. And what is.. Is one unbroken actuality with no divisions. If you lose that awareness of clarity and revert back to thinking that I am me right here looking at the world out there.. Then a question might arise about the nature of the relationship between me and the world.. Am I projecting the world? Imagining it like a dream that has no reality outside my own experience? Or is it just there and I m merely perceiving it..?. But the whole question is based on a false sense of self that is separate from the whole.  People on this forum don’t think of it from this angle . They think I’m a separate human and others are separate humans ..so am I the only separate human who has consciousness?

 

Aha, thank you.

I would also just like to get some clarity on one other thing if you don't mind,

A while back in the Jim Newman thread you said:

"to answer the question just in case the objective wasn’t clear ..it’s the absolute self . If you were to tell Jim Newman there is such a thing as an absolute self he would deny it and say that there is no self at all.  Those non duality speakers who say there is no self at all have a huge misunderstanding of certain teachings of Buddhism (essentially they are in love with the Buddhist teaching about no self  and just parrot it mindlessly.. there is no separate self inside the human body . That’s true . But they miss the absolute self which could be said to be the ground of being . It’s there even in Deep sleep ..prior to birth ..and after the death of the body . And it’s unborn and deathless .  That’s how you can remember that you were nothing before birth and you can remember there was nothing in deep sleep..because the absolute self was there in those states . It doesn’t die or sleep . It’s pure eternal awareness."

I am curious, how exactly is your notion of Absolute Self, different from, the Indescribable Mystery (or the Beloved), so called Nothingness (not the opposite of somethingness, but I admit potentially a misleading term), that has the infinite ability to appear as anything under the sun and beyond, and which has as its nature, unconditional freedom, unconditional love, unconditional aliveness, infinite beauty etc ?

Edited Sunday at 11:46 AM by Wilhelm44

[OBEler]

@Someone here "

They think I’m a separate human and others are separate humans ..so am I the only separate human who has consciousness?" 

That's the classical mainstream definition of solipsism. I think no one here thinks that. 

 

 

[Someone here]

1 hour ago, Wilhelm44 said:

I am curious, how exactly is your notion of Absolute Self, different from, the Indescribable Mystery (or the Beloved), so called Nothingness (not the opposite of somethingness, but I admit potentially a misleading term), that has the infinite ability to appear as anything under the sun and beyond, and which has as its nature, unconditional freedom, unconditional love, unconditional aliveness, infinite beauty etc ?

It’s no different.  The absolute self is omnipresent.  So it’s everything. 

 

[Wilhelm44]

2 minutes ago, Someone here said:

It’s no different.  The absolute self is omnipresent.  So it’s everything. 

 

Cool beans.

[Sugarcoat]

On 2026-07-18 at 5:23 PM, Breakingthewall said:

Was a drive of conquest, or better liberation. I felt myself prisoner from fear and was absolutely unbearable, better death than trapped life. I felt it from I was a kid. I never doubted about doing those things because there was no choice. Same than doing a lot of psychedelics, like doing 5meo dmt like 100 times in a year. It was necessary, nothing to negotiate, my intuition was absolute. I had to break the wall without possible choice. If there is no choice everything become simple.  I knew that Martin Ball had horrible deadly insomnia after those practices, 5 meo touches deep your energetic configuration, but my feeling was direct without doubt, then nothing to do to avoid it, I can't control myself, I do what I want, then I don't try to control. Now I do 5meo and I feel it very bad, toxic, even in low doses, so I never do anymore 

Sounds like increased sensitivity nowadays because of much less dense self in daily life maybe. I find that correlation being true for myself 

On 2026-07-18 at 9:34 PM, Breakingthewall said:

You choose it when it happens, same than someone choose being a toxic narcissist, it happens. It's the drive of what you are. 

Maybe for you 5 meo is nothing, worthless. It depends of your psychological structure. Seems that yours is low density, natural for spirituality. That's why your intuition detects the mistakes without a lot of mental analysis.

For most of people that's impossible, they believe what sounds safe for their ego and they integrate that structure in their psyche. Imo the real problem in spirituality is that the teachers aren't accurate, all of them make mistakes that trap the minds

About 5 meo what I was seeking is the act of disintegrating my psyche and its subsequent reintegration, over and over again. I wasn't looking to see God or anything like that; I was looking to completely break down my psychological structure and gradually understand what it was, so I could be free, able to dissolve its barriers at will. The psyche is not just thoughts, are energetic structures that make you being yourself, it's very difficult to understand from inside, 5 meo gives the possibility of seeing from outside 

Ok maybe it's just difference in experience/awareness then because I tend to call it "impulse", don´t feel its much of a choice, choice makes me think of something else. "Drive of what you are" makes sense to me though, but I see it as your entire entity, if wiring etc is very strong then the self can feel quite passive ime

I tried 10 mg vaporized. But just to try, I dont know what's usual for that amount, but yes I did experience mild effect as in significant thinning of the border between me and world, kind of "melting into environment" but not fully. Also a bit discomfort overall I guess it just comes with a state like that. Didnt quite like it.  My guess at the time and now also is that id need it many many times to have strong long lasting effect, similar to you maybe

I didnt start off "low density" but yes over the years it unravelled more and more and more, crazy how something still survived. Those who dont experience that, depending on the person, I wonder how much they suffer, some seem happier in proportion to the heaviness im percieving 

That last part about 5 meo makes sense to me, because my experience was very simple and clean like that, not fancy, so if you do higher doses and many times then it makes sense it could lead down the part you describe.

Ive had this intuition for a long time "no matter how self aware I am, there is always something I cant see", I just cant because im "inside" somehow, so Id say I can agree with you there

Edited 12 hours ago by Sugarcoat

[ExploringReality]

I am One! There are no others. There is only the Self. The Self is God. There is nothing but It. There is no reality! Your imagining everything! I am imagining everything.