holy shit it's all a dream, i am all alone. I awoken.

[Carl-Richard]

22 hours ago, Majed said:

That's what spiritual awakening is like: a recontextualization of what's going on, as a pointless meaningless dream, where others do not exist outside your own mind. 

Would you say others don't even exist inside your own mind, or do they exist inside your own mind?

[OBEler]

@Majed can you please tell us how exactly your awakening process unraveled. 

Was this based on prior experience with psychedelics? 

How long did this shift happen. Is it a baseline reality 

[Sugarcoat]

8 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

According to Sadhguru, it was to escape religious persecution. Which if it's not the entire explanation, might be partially true, maybe more than we think. Regardless, y'all think it's some kind of spiritual requirement to sit in a damp ass cave 💀 Cultural confirmity.

Rare occasion: being able to understand your posts

[Sugarcoat]

On 2026-06-26 at 10:36 PM, Jirh said:

That's interesting! I never thought of it this way.

Thanks.

I have this tendency where I tend to naturally try to imagine how reality is from someone else's perspective. I think it's based on this ability to "pick up" on others inner world activity, which is being emitted too more or less. So its just seems clear to me, yes they have an experience, but my own is still distinct and limited to what I am able to perceive. Something like that. 

[Carl-Richard]

43 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Rare occasion: being able to understand your posts

😢

[Sugarcoat]

2 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

😢

You have your own sciencey language kinda

[Carl-Richard]

4 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

You have your own sciencey language kinda

At some point I stopped trying to speak so damn "neutered" and be more free. Schizo would call it being phallic.

Edited June 28 by Carl-Richard

[Eskilon]

6 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

At some point I stopped trying to speak so damn "neutered" and be more free. Schizo would call it being phallic.

You mean being more shiva-like? Imagine if your whole being were associated with penis . That's some peak masculinity.

Edited June 28 by Eskilon

[Sugarcoat]

16 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

At some point I stopped trying to speak so damn "neutered" and be more free. Schizo would call it being phallic.

I dont understand that either

 

[Carl-Richard]

14 minutes ago, Eskilon said:

You mean being more shiva-like? Imagine if your whole being were associated with penis . That's some peak masculinity.

Less trying to speak to a child, more speaking coherently with what I have to say. If there is a word you don't understand, that's one Google search. That doesn't mean I will never explain or elaborate. But not every slightly mighty word every time it's used.

Edited June 28 by Carl-Richard

[Sugarcoat]

1 minute ago, Carl-Richard said:

Less trying to speak to a child, more speaking coherently with what I have to say. If there is a word you don't understand, that's one Google search. That doesn't mean I will never explain or elaborate. But not every slightly mighty word every time it's used.

Maybe this is just our version of more "relaxed" expression, rational and sloppy expression can develop at same time I find 

[Eskilon]

13 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Less trying to speak to a child, more speaking coherently with what I have to say. If there is a word you don't understand, that's one Google search. That doesn't mean I will never explain or elaborate. But not every slightly mighty word every time it's used.

You need some Keryo Koffa in you. A truly phallic way of communicating 

Edited June 28 by Eskilon

[Carl-Richard]

1 hour ago, Eskilon said:

You need some Keryo Koffa in you. A truly phallic way of communicating 

Self-fellating 

The symbol-depth (not tied to concept) style of communicating is familiar to me as a person with half bipolar genes. The tendency towards clanging is deep within me.

[Jirh]

4 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

Thanks.

I have this tendency where I tend to naturally try to imagine how reality is from someone else's perspective. I think it's based on this ability to "pick up" on others inner world activity, which is being emitted too more or less. So its just seems clear to me, yes they have an experience, but my own is still distinct and limited to what I am able to perceive. Something like that. 

I think this is the literal definition of cognitive empathy, which is a feature of more developed species like us humans. I think it speaks more to emotional intelligence.

Solipsism never truly made sense in this light, because I tend to view others in a similar way by default. Not that I have thought much about it, although I did think about it briefly.

[Carl-Richard]

12 minutes ago, Jirh said:

I think this is the literal definition of cognitive empathy, which is a feature of more developed species like us humans. I think it speaks more to emotional intelligence.

Solipsism never truly made sense in this light, because I tend to view others in a similar way by default. Not that I have thought much about it, although I did think about it briefly.

Solipsism makes sense if you're a spergy narc.

[Sugarcoat]

3 hours ago, Eskilon said:

You need some Keryo Koffa in you. A truly phallic way of communicating 

No it’s clutter on a place like this

Edited June 28 by Sugarcoat

[Sugarcoat]

@ZeldaStar I’ve seen so many users with Toronto on their profile is it some kind of mega concentrated spiritual community there

[ZeldaStar]

We do have one spiritual community here I am aware of! They do psychedelic retreats,  meditations, ecstatic dancing, etc 

 

https://hccollective.ca/

[Sugarcoat]

On 2026-06-26 at 6:55 PM, Majed said:

@Sugarcoat What you wrote is immaturity, it doesn't see clearly what's going on. Even the idea that others have their own bubbles is inside your mind, and need to be looked at for what it is. Once that is done, a recontextualization will happen, where you realize they are fictional characters within a meaningless pointless dream. That's it. That's reality. When i say a dream i literraly mean it. It's not a metaphor or to be cute. When you dream at night and then you wake up, boom others are gone, because you were dreaming them up in the first place. There's only you that's still there, their bubbles never existed, even though in your dream you believed they had bubbles. That's what spiritual awakening is like: a recontextualization of what's going on, as a pointless meaningless dream, where others do not exist outside your own mind. 

It’s more than “inside your own mind”. Perceiving others is more than mind level, whatever you mean when you say mind

You can notice a thought is a thought, but still recognize your experience of others which is deeper than that thought. It’s still there with or without that thought 

You sound like you had some shift in your subjective experience of reality , some distancing from the mind level. And now you’re talking as if you recognized the nature of the entire reality . 
 

I see this all the time, from my perspective people are doing it so much, so many people talking about absolute boundless infinity  , but then my sense of them is not matching with the profound language they use…

Edited June 28 by Sugarcoat

[Sugarcoat]

2 minutes ago, ZeldaStar said:

We do have one spiritual community here I am aware of! They do psychedelic retreats,  meditations, ecstatic dancing, etc 

 

https://hccollective.ca/

I see. I googled Toronto before, I thought it was USA. Canada gives me a better impression than USA, like Swedish version of USA or something AHAHAHAHHA