Deconstructing pick up: Women want good looking men with wealth and status.

[enchanted]

Social skills are needed when you meet your spouse's friends and family too

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, enchanted said:

Social skills are needed when you meet your spouse's friends and family too

Can't I just meet them like a feral animal?

[LordFall]

3 hours ago, enchanted said:

Social skills are needed when you meet your spouse's friends and family too

That's a big one. Women are very social and if her friends and family don't approve of you it can score major negative points. Unless she's the rebellious/blacksheep type which is probably a yellow flag in and of itself. 

Which is why I always liked the idea of fucking multiple girls in the same friend group. If one of them likes you and fucks you the chances that other ones will is pretty high. I had a club promoter buddy that did this on a night out, went straight to my bucketlist. 

[StaraX]

On 15.6.2026 at 0:54 PM, Ulax said:

Yes its probably harder because people with adhd are generally more emotionally ungrounded. When I took ADHD meds I started getting baddies bambi eyeing me. So, addressing the symptoms made an obvious difference.

That said, I struggle with game a lot so I'm not the best source of advice.

@Ulax For me, the meds had the opposite effect lol. I take 90 mg of Vyvanse, and I become really introverted. The dry mouth also makes it hard for me to speak. 

But yes, being emotionally ungrounded makes it very difficult. Getting rejected feels much worse than it does for neurotypical people, especially considering the strong correlation between RSD and ADHD. To be honest, it's kind of sad that these aspects haven't been taken into account to a greater extent.

[AtmanIsBrahman]

Pickup is a good skill to have, but looks are at least as important.

It’s honestly a huge gap in understanding on this forum (which is fine because spirituality is the focus) that getting girls is just about doing the correct psychological things. We judge other people’s attractiveness practically instantly. It’s a biologically ingrained mechanism. 

Pickup will not work well if you’re below average looking. It’s not that hard to do some amount of looksmaxxing, and it has clear benefits. 

[LordFall]

26 minutes ago, AtmanIsBrahman said:

Pickup is a good skill to have, but looks are at least as important.

It’s honestly a huge gap in understanding on this forum (which is fine because spirituality is the focus) that getting girls is just about doing the correct psychological things. We judge other people’s attractiveness practically instantly. It’s a biologically ingrained mechanism. 

Pickup will not work well if you’re below average looking. It’s not that hard to do some amount of looksmaxxing, and it has clear benefits. 

100% agreed. I wear colored contacts sometimes that make look way better and it's insane the difference in reactions I get. I would focus on solving all the immediate stuff for dudes like bad haircuts and beard grooming then spend some time finding a way to bring sex appeal into it. 

[Ulax]

51 minutes ago, AtmanIsBrahman said:

Pickup is a good skill to have, but looks are at least as important.

It’s honestly a huge gap in understanding on this forum (which is fine because spirituality is the focus) that getting girls is just about doing the correct psychological things. We judge other people’s attractiveness practically instantly. It’s a biologically ingrained mechanism. 

Pickup will not work well if you’re below average looking. It’s not that hard to do some amount of looksmaxxing, and it has clear benefits. 

No. I disagree.

Bradicus is one of the best puas and he is below average looking. And that dude gets loads of good looking girls.

The correct criticism of game is that its really fucking hard to skill up in. Its a tough skill tree to move up in

[AtmanIsBrahman]

1 hour ago, LordFall said:

100% agreed. I wear colored contacts sometimes that make look way better and it's insane the difference in reactions I get. I would focus on solving all the immediate stuff for dudes like bad haircuts and beard grooming then spend some time finding a way to bring sex appeal into it

Colored contacts are good. Blue often works well, though you have to make sure it looks natural.

Gym is good for sex appeal.

[LordFall]

2 hours ago, Ulax said:

No. I disagree.

Bradicus is one of the best puas and he is below average looking. And that dude gets loads of good looking girls.

The correct criticism of game is that its really fucking hard to skill up in. Its a tough skill tree to move up in

That's true if you get good at daygame you can attract really beautiful women. Still looksmaxxing is important bradicus dresses well when he goes out. I'm not too deep into the community but I believe more in softmaxxing which is like style fashion grooming haircut accessories fitness. I think hardmaxxing is when they get surgeries that's pretty wild. 

It's true that evolution has gatekept pussy quite well if you're not offering value you'll have a hard time. Value comes in many forms. Having a fun lifestyle and a charismatic playful personality goes a long way and probably more than looks. Being able to be smooth and charismatic on a cold approach is an honest signal of emotional resilience and emotional intelligence so women give you a lot of points for that.