Europe Votes This Year

[Hojo]

Why is every left wing country having the same problem? Its very strange.

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

1 hour ago, integral said:

How about we tax the rich instead.

All of this is a distraction from the root problems we all face.

 

If I was a dictator, all taxes would be abolished for everyone, except for socwokies

Which would be pretty logical actually; they are the ones advocating for giving money away, well they can embody this behaviour; that should make them happy

Edited 2 hours ago by NewKidOnTheBlock

[Schizophonia]

45 minutes ago, integral said:

How about we tax the rich instead.

All of this is a distraction from the root problems we all face.

 

It's a far-left conspiracy theory to believe that the money that's missing is hidden away by the rich.

I'm not against redistribution but even Elon Musk only has a few billion dollars in personal funds (in his personal bank accounts).

Even if you were to seize all the accumulated wealth of the American super-rich, for example—which is suicidal because whether we like it or not private savings is the essential of national savings, and you would squander it—you would only accumulate a few tens of billions of dollars, whereas by comparison the annual American budget is nearly 4 trillion dollars.

The majority of that money comes from the middle class.

Besides nobody except a few idiots here and there actually believes what's being said in the image; it's just another leftist tactic to treat people like fools and convince themselves they're very intelligent. If you ask people why they're against immigration most of them will talk about crime; because they see the news items, ethnic statistics etc.

[Hojo]

@Schizophonia Are you saying billionaires dont push narratives to the public? Is it a conspiracy that elon musk is pushing political agendas? Whether its true or not they are still doing it. The corruption lies in the man saying it. Why you saying this you have all the money in the world to do what you want with your life.

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[Schizophonia]

Just now, Hojo said:

@Schizophonia Are you saying billionaires dont push narratives to the public? Is it a conspiracy that elon musk is pushing political agendas?

No we can criticize the power of billionaires; I'm saying it's delusional to believe that all the money is "hidden somewhere above."

 

[Hojo]

@Schizophonia So its delusional to beleive what the billionaire in this image is saying? Or delusional to not beleive him?

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[Schizophonia]

Just now, Hojo said:

@Schizophonia So its delusional to beleive what the billionaire in this image is saying? Or delusional to not beleive him?

It's true that the super-rich protect their class interests and use their power to support ideological agendas they deem important for other reasons.

[integral]

50 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

It's a far-left conspiracy theory to believe that the money that's missing is hidden away by the rich.

I'm not against redistribution but even Elon Musk only has a few billion dollars in personal funds (in his personal bank accounts).

Even if you were to seize all the accumulated wealth of the American super-rich, for example—which is suicidal because whether we like it or not private savings is the essential of national savings, and you would squander it—you would only accumulate a few tens of billions of dollars, whereas by comparison the annual American budget is nearly 4 trillion dollars.

The majority of that money comes from the middle class.

Besides nobody except a few idiots here and there actually believes what's being said in the image; it's just another leftist tactic to treat people like fools and convince themselves they're very intelligent. If you ask people why they're against immigration most of them will talk about crime; because they see the news items, ethnic statistics etc.

Right it does sound like a conspiracy theory, the issue with not regulating the rich is that they've corrupted the government with lobbying and further extracting power and wealth.

The biggest issue with governments is that its anti-corruption policies are not strong enough and eventually they're dismantled.

And the rich the ones dismantling it. 

Edited 1 hour ago by integral

[Schizophonia]

Just now, integral said:

Right it does sound like a conspiracy theory, the issue with not regulating the rich is that they've corrupted the government with lobbying and further extracting power and wealth.

The biggest issue governments is that its anti-corruption policies are not strong enough and eventually they're dismantled.

And the rich the ones dismantling it. 

It's true

[integral]

51 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

If I was a dictator, all taxes would be abolished for everyone, except for socwokies

Which would be pretty logical actually; they are the ones advocating for giving money away, well they can embody this behaviour; that should make them happy

???? How will we pay for Social Services like police officers, cleaning the streets, garbage men, repairing roads, country diplomacy ... I think there's like a million things.

Oh we would have privately owned police forces owned by the rich, man that sounds like a terrible idea.

Edited 1 hour ago by integral

[LordFall]

1 hour ago, Hojo said:

Why is every left wing country having the same problem? Its very strange.

Late stage capitalism and globalization. In a way it's good, the world is uniting and facing the same issues together. 

46 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

It's a far-left conspiracy theory to believe that the money that's missing is hidden away by the rich.

I'm not against redistribution but even Elon Musk only has a few billion dollars in personal funds (in his personal bank accounts).

Even if you were to seize all the accumulated wealth of the American super-rich, for example—which is suicidal because whether we like it or not private savings is the essential of national savings, and you would squander it—you would only accumulate a few tens of billions of dollars, whereas by comparison the annual American budget is nearly 4 trillion dollars.

The majority of that money comes from the middle class.

Besides nobody except a few idiots here and there actually believes what's being said in the image; it's just another leftist tactic to treat people like fools and convince themselves they're very intelligent. If you ask people why they're against immigration most of them will talk about crime; because they see the news items, ethnic statistics etc.

Great point. Which is why I'm massively optimistic about AI ubi and the post scarcity that the technological singularity promises. There isn't really another way to solve the cost of living crisis that's happening. 

 

54 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

If I was a dictator, all taxes would be abolished for everyone, except for socwokies

Which would be pretty logical actually; they are the ones advocating for giving money away, well they can embody this behaviour; that should make them happy

Good thing you don't have much power, your political ideas seem pretty dumb.

 

@Basman I wasn't there in person, saw a video. Not sure how I would react, hopefully as well as the people that attacked him to get him to stop. 

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

21 minutes ago, integral said:

???? How will we pay for Social Services like police officers, cleaning the streets, garbage men, repairing roads, country diplomacy ... I think there's like a million things

I was trolling a little bit when I was making that claim, but to be honest, I genuinely think majority of these "things" would work better if they were done by privatized companies. At least it definitely wouldn't surprise me if these goverment competencies would be done better and more efficiently while privatized. Yes, obviously we still need goverment and taxes out of neccessity due to various reasons; in the post scarcity A.I. world taxes would be no longer neccessary though, neither would goverment

People think that just because company's and CEOs main motive is to chase profit, that makes them selfish and evil, but I don't think that's the case, you can do a lot more good for the world via selfish altruism rather than from fake sense of benevolence

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[Hojo]

@Schizophonia So would you say that image is true as in that scenario actually happens in real life vs which conspiracy might be true or not true?

They dont want the people to take their money so they make up chaos withing the citizens? Having them attack eachother? Is that right?

If they didnt do it the people would go after them.

Do they have the authority to manipulate the public minds because they have alot of money?

Seems fucked up to me just take your money and fk off with my brain asshole.

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[Schizophonia]

17 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Schizophonia So would you say that image is true as in that scenario actually happens in real life vs which conspiracy might be true or not true?

They dont want the people to take their money so they make up chaos withing the citizens? Having them attack eachother? Is that right?

If they didnt do it the people would go after them.

Do they have the authority to manipulate the public minds because they have alot of money?

Seems fucked up to me just take your money and fk off with my brain asshole.

Not in the sense that there is a nearby paradise stolen by the rich.

[Hojo]

@Schizophonia Do you think society would be better if they didnt do what is happening in the picture?

Could it be a paradise if all races get along?

If true then yes there is and its being stolen by the rich via fear politics and racism.

But they dont want that because then we would come after them.

They cause chaos and lie to the people to proctect themselves because they know they are outsiders in society.

People actually want communism.

But they are being tricked by these bastards at the top that make up random narratives of people to hate.

They do it to trick the people into thinking they dont want communism.

Edited 14 minutes ago by Hojo