13-Year-Olds Going to Prison in Sweden?

[Monster Energy]

On 2026-06-09 at 5:33 PM, emil1234 said:

my guess its because of the massive immigration issues in sweden, gangs are using minors to commit serious crimes because they cant go to jail

Yes, but there are better ways to deal with this.

 

[Monster Energy]

On 2026-06-09 at 8:00 PM, LordFall said:

That's how the social contract works. For some of us to live in harmony the ones that refuse to bend to the rules must be put somewhere else. Look at what happened last night when Spurs fan walked out of the stadium after the Knicks lost in New York, people got beat up in the street. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a stabbing or shooting reported before the series is over. The human is a dangerous animal. 

 

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Soon enough you will be able to have an AI psychologist assigned to everyone to coach them towards greater civility and consciousness but even then some people will refuse it. 

I get what you’re saying. Society needs rules. People break them, and when they do, others need protection. That part isn’t even up for debate.

But you’re talking like separation is the solution, not just a reaction. Like locking someone away somehow explains why they became dangerous in the first place. It doesn’t.

Human nature isn’t just “dangerous animal, end of story.” That’s the easy version. The comfortable one. The one that lets you stop thinking.

And about the AI psychologist idea… sure, give people guidance, structure, help. I’m not against that. But thinking you can engineer away every violent impulse or broken mind? That’s fantasy. Some people won’t listen. Some people won’t change. That’s just reality.

[Leo Gura]

On 6/9/2026 at 5:34 AM, Basman said:

Serious crime deserve serious consequences.

So send them to America

[Monster Energy]

27 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

So send them to America

Why are you in America? You don’t belong there. You belong in Scandinavia.

Sweden is a godless country. Religion isn’t really a problem there. It’s one of the most atheist countries in the world. Finding someone who believes in God there is like winning a billion-dollar lottery.

That’s just how it is.

 

[Basman]

1 hour ago, Monster Energy said:

That isn’t always true.

The problem is that you seem to assume that prison sentences automatically help young offenders develop into better people. There is very little evidence that punishment alone achieves that goal.

What I think is happening is that you’re approaching the issue primarily from an emotional perspective. Because of that, you’re focusing on what feels fair rather than what actually produces the best outcome.

If your position is that serious crimes deserve serious punishment because justice matters, then that’s a valid argument. But that’s a different argument from claiming that harsh punishment is necessarily good for the offender’s development or rehabilitation.

In other words, it seems like your main concern is that the person gets what they deserve. Whether the punishment actually helps them become a better person appears to be secondary, if it matters at all.

Those are two separate questions, and I think it’s important not to confuse them.

 

Bro it's Sweden. Swedish prisoners have better conditions than the countries a lot of these 13 yos originally came from. It's more like daycare.

And if they don't know what they are doing then that's an even better reason to lock them up. The kid gloves are off when it comes to stabbings and murder. 

[Monster Energy]

14 minutes ago, Basman said:

Bro it's Sweden. Swedish prisoners have better conditions than the countries a lot of these 13 yos originally came from. It's more like daycare.

And if they don't know what they are doing then that's an even better reason to lock them up. The kid gloves are off when it comes to stabbings and murder. 

It doesn’t matter if the prison environment is better or more adapted to the individual. It’s good that they should feel safe and not completely terrified, but it still doesn’t lead to healing.

I am from Sweden, and there are still flaws there as well, even if it is more safe compared to Turkish prisons, as you mentioned earlier.