The Ocean of Being / Enlightenment in daily life

[Breakingthewall]

3 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

His intention doesn't seem to be exploring anyone else's unique point of view. He appears more interested in telling his own story than hearing anyone else's.

The problem that makes him unbearable isn't that he believes in his own point of view and sees the flaws in yours; it's that he defends a viewpoint that serves as his psychological anchor and tries to tear down other viewpoints because he sees them as a threat. The difference is total.

3 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

@Natasha Tori Maru it seem they gain a lot of stimulation going back and forth with each other, those two in particular for some reason, it’s like they actually love each other and are connecting 😂

Its just desperating. Why he can't see what he's doing? He's pure iron

Edited 2 hours ago by Breakingthewall

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@Breakingthewall he thinks he doesn't HAVE a viewpoint 😂😂😂

[James123]

3 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

@Breakingthewall he thinks he doesn't HAVE a viewpoint 😂😂😂

What is the view point after dropping all the views?

[Breakingthewall]

6 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

@Breakingthewall he thinks he doesn't HAVE a viewpoint 😂😂😂

And it's true, he hasn't. He is an emotional defense that adapts and changes depending on the form the threat takes. Absolutely everything he puts out is a reaction, even if he posts a thread; the energy driving that post is a reaction to virtual attacks on the integrity of the armor with which he protects himself from the terrifying inconsistency that reality represents for him.

All his activity on this forum is an exercise in affirming that armor, which inevitably and constantly falters and needs to be reinforced.

James my friend, be a man and break your walls.

You did a lot of psychedelic but only led you to emptiness and absolute nihilism, and now you're in a very difficult place. The problem is that you approached the breakdown of your psyche from the arrogance of wanting to become superior, not from the humility of becoming open, and the doors remained closed to you. And now you prefer to maintain a self-image of superiority rather than try to open yourself to reality. Bad business.

[James123]

5 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

And it's true, he hasn't. He is an emotional defense that adapts and changes depending on the form the threat takes. Absolutely everything he puts out is a reaction, even if he posts a thread; the energy driving that post is a reaction to virtual attacks on the integrity of the armor with which he protects himself from the terrifying inconsistency that reality represents for him.

All his activity on this forum is an exercise in affirming that armor, which inevitably and constantly falters and needs to be reinforced.

James my friend, be a man and break your walls.

You did a lot of psychedelic but only led you to emptiness and absolute nihilism, and now you're in a very difficult place. The problem is that you approached the breakdown of your psyche from the arrogance of wanting to become superior, not from the humility of becoming open, and the doors remained closed to you. And now you prefer to maintain a self-image of superiority rather than try to open yourself to reality. Bad business.

Look at what I post, you say it is nihilism. 

You literally ruin every post that I tried to help people. Just don't fucking write. Your stupidity can not realize, at least let me help to rest people.

Do not fucking post, what I write.

[Breakingthewall]

4 minutes ago, James123 said:

You literally ruin every post that I tried to help people. Just don't fucking write. Your stupidity can not realize, at least let me help to rest people.

You never tried to help anyone except yourself. You use the others as a mirror to feel safe. They are not individuals for you, you don't see them, they are tools. 

[Grateful Dead]

22 hours ago, James123 said:

This is a lie my friend. Only love is true, which is the feeling to feeling to any feeling itself. Being alive, or having a body is love itself. Not a feeling of love. Love is not a feeling. 

Stop believing in this mainstream love.

Love is the ultimate reality, I agree.

I see the body as both a tool and a limitation. It's like the second thorn I use to pull out the first.

Love doesn't need a body to exist. The illusion of having a body is ultimately what obscures and limits love. True awakening is the realization of boundless love beyond the body.

 

[Breakingthewall]

35 minutes ago, James123 said:

Look at what I post, you say it is nihilism. 

You literally ruin every post that I tried to help people.

35 minutes ago, James123 said:

@James123

Read your post, then read the answer of grateful dead, then your response ,then my response, then your response. Who's ruining your post? Be honest. Read it as if it were not yours

[James123]

1 minute ago, Grateful Dead said:

Love is the ultimate reality, I agree.

I see the body as both a tool and a limitation. It's like the second thorn I use to pull out the first.

Love doesn't need a body to exist. The illusion of having a body is ultimately what obscures and limits love. True awakening is the realization of boundless love beyond the body.

 

If there is no sun, air, food etc... body cant live, body is one with universe. So love is existence itself. 

Having a body is not illusion, even writer of these sentences "illusion of having a body" is fingers itself.

[Breakingthewall]

Just now, James123 said:

If there is no sun, air, food etc... body cant live, body is one with universe. So love is existence itself. 

Having a body is not illusion, even writer of these sentences "illusion of having a body" is fingers itself.

Totally agree 

[James123]

@Breakingthewall just don't post. Please, don't.

[Breakingthewall]

1 minute ago, James123 said:

@Breakingthewall just don't post. Please, don't.

Ok, if my activity goes against your needs I understand. Good luck 

Edited 1 hour ago by Breakingthewall

[Mellowmarsh]

1 hour ago, James123 said:

What is the view point after dropping all the views?

There’s not even an “I” dropping a view here. Just as there’s no “I” that sleeps or is breathing.

 And that’s the point you’re making that seems to go unnoticed, but not by I 😉

Great topic starter, my friend. 👍

[Grateful Dead]

6 minutes ago, James123 said:

If there is no sun, air, food etc... body cant live, body is one with universe. So love is existence itself. 

Having a body is not illusion, even writer of these sentences "illusion of having a body" is fingers itself.

Interdependence is not Unity. Unity is perfect fullness; there is nothing outside of it on which it depends. The fact that the body needs sun and air only confirms, in my view, the fragile, vulnerable nature of the body. Reality doesn't depend on anything to survive; it is indestructible, and I base my existence solely on that.

As I wrote before, for me the body is merely the tool through which the mind communicates. If you dream tonight that you are writing a novel, does that confirm the reality of the fingers in the dream writing it? Or does it confirm the reality of the mind imagining it?

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@James123 there's a function that lets you ignore users. It's much easier that trying to moderate with words. Boundaries work on what we allow, not in controlling others.

[James123]

5 minutes ago, Grateful Dead said:

Unity is perfect fullness; there is nothing outside of it on which it depends. 

This is You.

5 minutes ago, Grateful Dead said:

does that confirm the reality of the fingers in the dream writing it? Or does it confirm the reality of the mind imagining it?

Anything that body has learned and experience is temporary, fragile. Including love and infinity. Because depends on body. Have your heard, felt, experience infinity and love before existence of body? No. 

You are beyond all. Anything and everything arises falls within You, but You are none. 

Existence is love, infinite is love, yet temporary. 

As my thread, all will be gone when body dies.

İf you think that but it is infinite, there is no body, existence is infinite etc... Just ask yourself, why you did not experience before physical body and mind?

[Grateful Dead]

16 minutes ago, James123 said:

Anything that body has learned and experience is temporary, fragile. Including love and infinity. Because depends on body. Have your heard, felt, experience infinity and love before existence of body? No. 

You are beyond all. Anything and everything arises falls within You, but You are none. 

Existence is love, infinite is love, yet temporary. 

As my thread, all will be gone when body dies.

İf you think that but it is infinite, there is no body, existence is infinite etc... Just ask yourself, why you did not experience before physical body and mind?

Just because you don't remember what existed before your physical existence doesn't mean there was nothing there. Perhaps the body itself is precisely what prevents you from remembering what truly is?

Before the body, there was eternity, and in reality, that has never changed. When the body ultimately disappears, all that remains is infinite love.

Using the body as proof that nothing exists outside of it is like a prisoner pointing at the wall of their cell and saying, "Look, that's all there is; there's no world out there." It seems to me that you're defining everything through the limitations of your physical existence.

If you think love is temporary and dies with the body, then what you call love is what I see as the body-mind interpretation of love. It's already filtered. What I call love is indestructible and eternal.

[James123]

2 minutes ago, Grateful Dead said:

Just because you don't remember what existed before your physical existence doesn't mean there was nothing there. Perhaps the body itself is precisely what prevents you from remembering what truly is?

Before the body, there was eternity, and in reality, that has never changed. When the body ultimately disappears, all that remains is infinite love.

Using the body as proof that nothing exists outside of it is like a prisoner pointing at the wall of their cell and saying, "Look, that's all there is; there's no world out there." It seems to me that you're defining everything through the limitations of your physical existence.

If you think love is temporary and dies with the body, then what you call love is what I see as the body-mind interpretation of love. It's already filtered. What I call love is indestructible and eternal.

No.

There is nothing except You.

Entire existence is just a drop in ocean. 

So, the reason why you don't remember because, there was only You. Just Being.

Body and love is just a temporary gift. No experience, feeling is forever. Only You.

Think about Brazil, see Brazil exist now, think about Africa, see Brazil is gone Africa is exist.

Anything and everything happens within You, just experience trough body. And when body is gone, experience gone. 

[Sugarcoat]

2 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Its just desperating. Why he can't see what he's doing? He's pure iron

If someone genuinely believes and feels that they experience what they're saying, if theyre being defensive etc it might not feel to them like they are "defending a fasade" for its own sake but rather just defending what they actually believe , something like that came to my mind 

Edited 21 minutes ago by Sugarcoat

[James123]

1 hour ago, Mellowmarsh said:

There’s not even an “I” dropping a view here. Just as there’s no “I” that sleeps or is breathing.

 And that’s the point you’re making that seems to go unnoticed, but not by I 😉

Great topic starter, my friend. 👍

Only 2 person understood what I say, one is you, second person is banned.

And only person who was enlightened in this forum @Nahm got banned to 😂 

I will and maybe you will soon 😂