Expiration Date

[James123]

Guys, I really respect all of you who are putting effort and time into this path such as god realization, the infinite, nothingness, etc.

But why wasn't there a god before physical birth? Ok, let's say that physical birth is an illusion and you experience everything via consciousness. Why does an experience only take place while the body is alive?

Or let's say that you experience infinite times, or that you are everything. some of you call it infinite consciousness, why are you, and why were you, only conscious of this specific reality while the body is alive?

Why do all these realizations come through only when the body exists?

Including reincarnation, it is learned through the mind, which belongs to life. So when the mind dies, what will happen to reincarnation?

For instance, 99% of you consume psychedelics and realize what god or the infinite is; the body consumes a substance and you have a realization of this stuff. Why were you never conscious of these things before the body existed?

So when the body and mind die, what will be left?

The mind invents these lofty concepts to try and escape its own expiration date.

[Joseph Maynor]

Your mind hasn't died.  You're in a fantasy world.

[Hojo]

Because of self reflection/ego. You are conciousness receiving information. When your information stops being fed into conciousness, it literally dosent matter whats happening because you wont have words. If you never had a thought again, what are we even talking about?

There was a God before birth but its not there. Its somewhere else. Human mind connect to this via being able to pretend its not that. God is always outside of reality.

You come from a metaphysical realm. That has physical realms in it.

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[James123]

5 hours ago, Hojo said:

Because of self reflection/ego. You are conciousness receiving information. When your information stops being fed into conciousness, it literally dosent matter whats happening because you wont have words. If you never had a thought again, what are we even talking about?

There was a God before birth but its not there. Its somewhere else. Human mind connect to this via being able to pretend its not that. God is always outside of reality.

You come from a metaphysical realm. That has physical realms in it.

When did you learn these?

5 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Your mind hasn't died.  You're in a fantasy world.

Mind never belongs to me. World comes and goes.

[Breakingthewall]

17 hours ago, James123 said:

So when the body and mind die, what will be left?

When you die, James123 disappears, and we all say, "He was a great guy; it's always the best ones who leave us." Then countless births occur, universes emerge, others collapse, and the limitless fractal of reality keeps turning.

James was just a form, an expression of the Source. The essential thing isn't James passively-aggressively saying "peace, brother," but the essence of James, and this essence is total. Perhaps there is something like reincarnation, perhaps not. Probably some kind of continuity of form, not "you," but a structural memory of this form.

But what you consider "you" is only the dual structure that allows perception. That is just one form; there are infinitely many like it, so you can immerse yourself in infinity and die peacefully because you are nothing more than one of the expressions of your true nature. Just let it go yourself, what you are is the unlimited ocean, and forms are going to emerge for the eternity 

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[James123]

2 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Then countless births occur, universes emerge, others collapse, and the limitless fractal of reality keeps turning.

When did you learn this?

[Breakingthewall]

10 minutes ago, James123 said:

When did you learn this?

I learned it by opening myself to the total Source, and I see it clearly right now, same clear that I perceive my body.

I see that it is the unlimited, and the unlimited, being unlimited, emitted potential in all directions. That potential was simply the fact of having no limits, but it is the inevitable cause of everything possible being.

Let's say that the absolute void is like an infinite computer that emits mathematical equations, that is, possible relationships, and the moment the potential becomes possible, it is. It's not magic, it's just inevitable. The unlimited can't be stable, can't stop flowing, precisely because it's unlimited. 

The Source is total vitality only because it has no limits, and that is precisely what you are. It is not a god, nor a self, it's  open, period. That which is absolutely open cannot be closed. What would close it? It's impossible.

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[James123]

9 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

I learned it by opening myself to the total Source, and I see it clearly right now, same clear that I perceive my body.

I see that it is the unlimited, and the unlimited, being unlimited, emitted potential in all directions. That potential was simply the fact of having no limits, but it is the inevitable cause of everything possible being.

Let's say that the absolute void is like an infinite computer that emits mathematical equations, that is, possible relationships, and the moment the potential becomes possible, it is. It's not magic, it's just inevitable. The unlimited can't be stable, can't stop flowing, precisely because it's unlimited. 

The Source is total vitality only because it has no limits, and that is precisely what you are. It is not a god, nor a self, it's  open, period. That which is absolutely open cannot be closed. What would close it? It's impossible.

Yeah but when did you learn or experience this stuff? Trough this body and mind, correct?

So it is only temporary while body is there. When body is gone, it is gone. 

What you experience, think, learn, all is fucking bullshit.

And this is the what tread about.

 

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[Breakingthewall]

11 minutes ago, James123 said:

So it is only temporary while body is there. When body is gone, it is gone. 

What you experience, think, learn, all is fucking bullshit.

The body is gone, but the source will flow always, it's impossible anything else. The human structure is not an illusion, is a manifestation of the absolute and it's perception is the perception of the absolute. It's totally obvious, can't be anything else. 

I know exactly where is your problem btw. I remember perfectly your two trip experiences with 10 grams of dried mushrooms. You reached the point of total emptiness and stayed there for hours, but the revelation of the limitless didn't occur.

I've told you this many times, but your primary need isn't openness but superiority, which is why the opening didn't happen. When you're in absolute limitless emptiness, you can still feel, right? You can have the sensation that this emptiness is terrifying, or sad.

It's at that moment that you have to make the movement of surrendering the self, of wanting to disappear into the void. Then, perhaps, sometimes, the opening occurs, and the absolute is revealed. Then your life changes forever. The prodigal son who was wandering in the dead desert has returned to his place, to the totality that lives. 

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[James123]

21 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

The body is gone, but the source will flow always, it's impossible anything else. The human structure is not an illusion, is a manifestation of the absolute and it's perception is the perception of the absolute. It's totally obvious, can't be anything else. 

This is learned trough mind, when mind is gone, it will be gone. Why there was no flaw source before the mind or birth?

23 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

I know exactly where is your problem btw. I remember perfectly your two trip experiences with 10 grams of dried mushrooms. You reached the point of total emptiness and stayed there for hours, but the revelation of the limitless didn't occur.

I've told you this many times, but your primary need isn't openness but superiority, which is why the opening didn't happen. When you're in absolute limitless emptiness, you can still feel, right? You can have the sensation that this emptiness is terrifying, or sad.

It's at that moment that you have to make the movement of surrendering the self, of wanting to disappear into the void. Then, perhaps, sometimes, the opening occurs, and the absolute is revealed. Then your life changes forever. The prodigal son who was wandering in the dead desert has returned to his place, to

You are just wasting your time. You are not limitless or totally open, anything learned or experienced within this life, belongs to mind. Because, you experience with it and trough it.

Any beliefs, fucking reincarnation, infinite, God, all is fucking bullshit of you, your / mind story. 

How many years you are in the path, and still a toady of the mind. 

Let the fuck go.

[VeganAwake]

Agreed!

When all these learned beliefs, theories, concepts crumble away.

What's being described in this thread,  becomes obvious.

The canvas is empty to see clearly for the first time.

 

[Breakingthewall]

32 minutes ago, James123 said:

You are just wasting your time. You are not limitless or totally open, anything learned or experienced within this life, belongs to mind. Because, you experience with it and trough it.

Any beliefs, fucking reincarnation, infinite, God, all is fucking bullshit of you, your / mind story. 

How many years you are in the path, and still a toady of the mind. 

Let the fuck go.

As we could see again, you prefer being superior than being open. Your choice.

[James123]

41 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

As we could see again, you prefer being superior than being open. Your choice.

Completely opposite. I am just telling you to how to be free.

Being superior includes attachment to a belief, experience, being right or wrong. 

All I am telling you is drop all. Only way to be free. 

[Breakingthewall]

@James123 did you read what I wrote? Read this quote of nisgardatta maharah, as he has authority maybe something can penetrate in the shield of narcissism that protects you from your inner fear to be not enough. 

Read: 

When the 'I Am' dissolves into the Absolute, all traces of individuality disappear, but what remains is not the emptiness of a corpse. It is the original source of all life, a state of pure dynamism and unlimited potentiality that needs no witnesses to exist. In that state, you are not conscious of being alive; you are Life itself flowing, a fullness so massive that the birth and death of entire universes are merely tiny bubbles rising to the surface of your own being

Nisgardatta (authority) maharah

 

 

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, VeganAwake said:

Agreed!

When all these learned beliefs, theories, concepts crumble away.

What's being described in this thread,  becomes obvious.

The canvas is empty to see clearly for the first time.

 

A question, if nothing matters, as your profile picture says, why are you vegan? 

 

[Sugarcoat]

7 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

A question, if nothing matters, as your profile picture says, why are you vegan? 

 

I thought recently about that exact question

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[Breakingthewall]

8 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

I thought recently about that exact question

Incredible, 1 hour ago I thought about you, and I didn't though about you since you stop posting here

[Sugarcoat]

15 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Incredible, 1 hour ago I thought about you, and I didn't though about you since you stop posting here

Same recently, Im very sensitive to presence 

[James123]

40 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

@James123 did you read what I wrote? Read this quote of nisgardatta maharah, as he has authority maybe something can penetrate in the shield of narcissism that protects you from your inner fear to be not enough. 

Read: 

When the 'I Am' dissolves into the Absolute, all traces of individuality disappear, but what remains is not the emptiness of a corpse. It is the original source of all life, a state of pure dynamism and unlimited potentiality that needs no witnesses to exist. In that state, you are not conscious of being alive; you are Life itself flowing, a fullness so massive that the birth and death of entire universes are merely tiny bubbles rising to the surface of your own being

Nisgardatta (authority) maharah

 

 

What he said "Tiny bubbles" for entire universes. So, where is the absolute, it is Being.

Therefore, forget these reincarnation, infinite realms, life's, fucking energies etc...

You are already giving your own answer 😂 

Everything arises and falls within You, but You are none.