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Why does Leo talks down on survival?

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In his video on relationship it seems like he tries to shame his viewers for having self interests:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DYgJwWdOdMm/?igsh=MWlvaWR2ZjhqejRjcw==

He proposing having saintly love but in modern relationships this is not practical at all.

This is very unhealthy actually. People come together because people want things for each other. It is is ok to have your and want yours and have win win relationships with each other we’re both benefit from the synergy of the relationship. 

Owen Cook talks about this a lot.  All relationships start transactionally and some become non transactional called love but not all relationships have to make this arch. It is ok that some friendships remain transactional. 

More over if you try to live Leo’s saintly love you will be fucked over all the time vis-à-vis if you do the opposite. Be ok with your own self interests and be ok with other people self interests and then try to create win win situations where both win. I’m on Owen Cook with this one  

You don’t have to agree with Owen Cook here but if we just stay with Leo Gura. I think his shaming of self interests is not very integral. Because you are allowing others to have self interests but shame your own self interests. On top of that I don’t even see Leo living this kind of mindset in his life. It was such an awful video that I had to make a postabout it. 
 

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The issue is more existential than practical.

You are surviving unconsciously without understanding what you are doing. This is being pointed out to you.

Am I shaming you for being selfish? Or are you going to shame your relations when they don't serve your survival?

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I didn’t get that sense. Might be projection.


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@Leo Gura

I´m in the business of survival and you too. One can´t bypass survival. Only after one secures it, it can transcend and include.

I´m ok with admitting I´m not a charity and I´m conscious about that. I provide value and I get value back when I´m doing business. With friendships this is to a lesser degree but I do have some friendships that benefit the other more than it benefits me. So there is a time and place for charity aka being non/selfish.

But I don´t think it is either/or... selfish bastard versus being a saint. Sometimes I´m selfish and sometimes I´m not.

Being a saint is only for special kind of people. But if you want a regular life etc, get in business and having romantic relationships, you will not get by without being transactional and self interested because that is the driving force.

99% of people in business and personal relationships will leave you if you stop providing them value. So that is just the rules of the game. And one should understand why. Self interests is the expanding force for development.


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3 minutes ago, Sincerity said:

I didn’t get that sense. Might be projection.

which part is projection


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@AION Become conscious of how you use others for survival. That is all.

The shame you can drop in the trash.


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49 minutes ago, AION said:

which part is projection

The talking down.


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