Nothing important is happening

[Mellowmarsh]

14 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Maybe you don't understand what I'm pointing.

Do you want to be understood by unlimited being?

[Zeroguy]

39 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Do you want to be understood by unlimited being?

Wow, calm down. You are not infinite being you are just some random dude.

[Breakingthewall]

43 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Well as long as you enjoy going round and round in endless circles getting nowhere with another unlimited being that cannot exist apart from unlimited being, then go for it, for all it’s worth. 

1 hour ago, Mellowmarsh said:

 

1 hour ago, Mellowmarsh said:

 

What I'm pointing is that you can open yourself to your unlimited nature now, it's not conceptual, it's a reality that happens. The conceptual frame that I'm constructing has the sole purpose of removing any mental barrier, but the fact or breaking the emotional barrier and be one with the totality is something that you have to do

[Mellowmarsh]

29 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

What I'm pointing is that you can open yourself to your unlimited nature now, it's not conceptual, it's a reality that happens. The conceptual frame that I'm constructing has the sole purpose of removing any mental barrier, but the fact or breaking the emotional barrier and be one with the totality is something that you have to do

What I’m taking away from your statement is that there’s this open boundless unframed non conceptual unlimited happening that constructs a frame for the sole purpose of removing the frame? 
 

That to me sounds like oneness desired to separate into two halves just for the fun of coming together again as oneness ?
Is that what you mean?

[Breakingthewall]

1 minute ago, Mellowmarsh said:

What I’m taking away from your statement is that there’s this open boundless unframed non conceptual unlimited happening that constructs a frame for the sole purpose of removing the frame? 
 

That to me sounds like oneness desired to separate into two halves just for the fun of coming together again as oneness ?
Is that what you mean?

Because any human is closed by default, our emotional structures are built for survival and for tribal cohesion not for openess, then you have to do an action of openess and breaking your barriers to be open to your ultimate nature, and it's extremely difficult, because you are immersed in the emotional density, same that everyone else 

[Mellowmarsh]

12 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

What I'm pointing is that you can open yourself to your unlimited nature now, it's not conceptual, it's a reality that happens. The conceptual frame that I'm constructing has the sole purpose of removing any mental barrier, but the fact or breaking the emotional barrier and be one with the totality is something that you have to do

I understand what you’re saying and why you’re saying this.

That’s why in my opinion on the human level I call it discovering fire twice. Curiosity is the key to absolute understanding.

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, Mellowmarsh said:

I understand what you’re saying and why you’re saying this.

That’s why in my opinion on the human level I call it discovering fire twice. Curiosity is the key to absolute understanding.

12 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

 

Why I'm saying it? I didn't understand what you are saying. Anyway, thanks for the conversation 

[Mayonnaise]

@VeganAwake yeah. but essentially doing all of those things and taking care of them makes the survival machine better and your reality here better. For example, you will fundamentally feel better about yourself if you exercise. In the end it doesnt matter, but while youre here experiencing this you make it better by maxing out survival in all areas. A persons life will always feel lack if they dont work on or towards something, could be anything. Creating and building is what humans do. could be a skill, could be a lifestyle change, could be to be better in some way, to share something with others, to have certain experiences, etc. etc. etc. So because its all fleeting in the end doesn't mean to be nihilistic, use it for the experience to do what you want to do in life.

[Mellowmarsh]

30 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Why I'm saying it? I didn't understand what you are saying. Anyway, thanks for the conversation 

Thank too, for the conversation. I’ve always adhered to the fundamental principle that we’re here to understand ourselves, not to be understood by other. When you understand yourself, understanding others is irrelevant because they are only extensions of you. Not actually you in the physical sense, but shared ideas that are everywhere and belong to no one.
 

When you understand yourself, what else is there to understand. We’re just walking each other home. The paths are many and diverse but the destination is always the same one. 
 

 We can share our own unique paths with one another , but it won’t make the slightest bit of difference in the end because in the end, our stories are inseparable from the infinite open book that embodies all our stories.

We don’t need to worry or focus on other people’s understanding, because the only real self is already you. And even that coming here in good faith is authored by God alone.

 

Edited yesterday at 07:29 AM by Mellowmarsh

[Joseph Maynor]

29 minutes ago, Mayonnaise said:

@VeganAwake yeah. but essentially doing all of those things and taking care of them makes the survival machine better and your reality here better. For example, you will fundamentally feel better about yourself if you exercise. In the end it doesnt matter, but while youre here experiencing this you make it better by maxing out survival in all areas. A persons life will always feel lack if they dont work on or towards something, could be anything. Creating and building is what humans do. could be a skill, could be a lifestyle change, could be to be better in some way, to share something with others, to have certain experiences, etc. etc. etc. So because its all fleeting in the end doesn't mean to be nihilistic, use it for the experience to do what you want to do in life.

Exactly.  We all appreciate a bit of a purpose.

[Breakingthewall]

44 minutes ago, Mayonnaise said:

@VeganAwake yeah. but essentially doing all of those things and taking care of them makes the survival machine better and your reality here better. For example, you will fundamentally feel better about yourself if you exercise. In the end it doesnt matter, but while youre here experiencing this you make it better by maxing out survival in all areas. A persons life will always feel lack if they dont work on or towards something, could be anything. Creating and building is what humans do. could be a skill, could be a lifestyle change, could be to be better in some way, to share something with others, to have certain experiences, etc. etc. etc. So because its all fleeting in the end doesn't mean to be nihilistic, use it for the experience to do what you want to do in life.

Nailed. Sanity is appreciated in this forum, it's so rare. The drive of life is expansion. Maybe you are so spiritual and you think: oh, nothing matters, for me it's the same being tortured than having health and success, because at the end everything is going to disappear. That's just evasion, life wants to live, and doesn't need any reason for it, it's just a fact, and as much aligned are you with your nature, better experience. The point is not success, it's vector and movement. Success is a consequence. 

Edited yesterday at 08:10 AM by Breakingthewall

[Mellowmarsh]

When nothing matters everything matters, because they’re identical in their very nature.

 

The human is on fire, with passion and drive, ambition and creativity, the human can also recognise I’m not actually on fire, I am the fire firing. 

 

Be the fire and burn in it. 

 

Edited yesterday at 08:37 AM by Mellowmarsh

[Mayonnaise]

@Breakingthewall Exactly. Regardless of how awake someone is, its no excuse to throw away life because its just a temporary experience. In fact I'd argue the more things you do, the more things you accomplish  /create/ build/ experience, while simultaneously being awakened to the god in you, the better. A big trap would be to do all these things and not be awakened, confusing material success for true achievement. So in a way, its actually both thats needed , the material side , and the awakened side, and using them in conjunction. It's basically like, have/do/be all the things you want as a human but realize you are also god for eternity at the same time. That way you can enjoy the the dream to its fullest, not necessarily "attaching" to all the things but having/doing them for the sake of the experience itself and enjoying them

[VeganAwake]

18 hours ago, Mayonnaise said:

@VeganAwake yeah. but essentially doing all of those things and taking care of them makes the survival machine better and your reality here better. For example, you will fundamentally feel better about yourself if you exercise. In the end it doesnt matter, but while youre here experiencing this you make it better by maxing out survival in all areas. A persons life will always feel lack if they dont work on or towards something, could be anything. Creating and building is what humans do. could be a skill, could be a lifestyle change, could be to be better in some way, to share something with others, to have certain experiences, etc. etc. etc. So because its all fleeting in the end doesn't mean to be nihilistic, use it for the experience to do what you want to do in life.

Totally, 

It wasn't a recommendation to do or not do anything in particular, but I can understand how it might sound that way.

It's more like a: do whatever you want without the additional stress/concern of it being inherently important message.

It's not necessarily a: nothing is important, so turn into a depressed, fat, couch potato, although that would be perfectly fine also message.

[VeganAwake]

Every single living organism within the infinite cosmos of this incredible phenomenon called reality, will eventually be dead. 

And when there is an end of life, there is simultaneously an end to knowing life or anything ever existed.

It will be identical to prior birth or deep sleep. Absolute nothing.

Not even absolute, just nothing.

It's in that realization that nothing matters or is important.

Even saying that it relatively matters and is important, doesn't make logical sense. It either ultimately matters or it doesn't.

It could be said that it temporarily seems to matter and is important but temporary and permanent both equal nothing because nothing is permanent.

Infinite impermanence is the reality 😳

[Mellowmarsh]

4 hours ago, VeganAwake said:

Totally, 

It wasn't a recommendation to do or not do anything in particular, but I can understand how it might sound that way.

It's more like a: do whatever you want without the additional stress/concern of it being inherently important message.

It's not necessarily a: nothing is important, so turn into a depressed, fat, couch potato, although that would be perfectly fine also message.

Totally. 💯 

 

Everything doing, or not doing, doesn’t matter, whether it’s important or not important, it’s all the perfect expression of oneness. 

[Breakingthewall]

11 hours ago, Mayonnaise said:

its actually both thats needed , the material side , and the awakened side, and using them in conjunction. It's basically like, have/do/be all the things you want as a human but realize you are also god for eternity at the same time. That way you can enjoy the the dream to its fullest, not necessarily "attaching" to all the things but having/doing them for the sake of the experience itself and enjoying them

I don't think that realizing that you are god dreaming is being awake but just a fantasy because it implies an intentional entity.

What you are is the unlimited, the expansive drive of reality expressed in a form of extreme perfection and beauty, and if your mind and your emotional system are open the natural expression of them would be expansion, action, love and joy. 

[Breakingthewall]

10 hours ago, VeganAwake said:

will be identical to prior birth or deep sleep. Absolute nothing.

Not even absolute, just nothing.

That vision happen because you are attached to your actual character, then for you the end of the character is the end of reality, but look, when you die, probably I would be still alive, then reality would still exist. And if unfortunately I'm also dead, infinite others would live. What you are is not veganimboring but life itself, and you can't die. Forget vegan and you will see. 

Of course you can't understand it because for you you are a piece of life that will die, but there are not pieces, it's the unlimited that lives, and the piece contains the totality, same than the totality is expressed as a part. But you can't leave the part, that's why you are limited. Break your limits and see. 

But of course, now a mock with emoticons so funny will come with condescendence as defense. Well, your choice.

Edited 5 hours ago by Breakingthewall

[James123]

4 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

That vision happen because you are attached to your actual character, then for you the end of the character is the end of reality, but look, when you die, probably I would be still alive, then reality would still exist. And if unfortunately I'm also dead, infinite others would live. What you are is not veganimboring but life itself, and you can't die. Forget vegan and you will see. 

Of course you can't understand it because for you you are a piece of life that will die, but there are not pieces, it's the unlimited that lives, and the piece contains the totality, same than the totality is expressed as a part. But you can't leave the part, that's why you are limited. Break your limits and see. 

But of course, now a mock with emoticons so funny will come with condescendence as defense. Well, your choice.

Investigate, 

Do you really think that above sentence is true?

Or, 

You just want your sentences or beliefs to be true?

[Breakingthewall]

27 minutes ago, James123 said:

Investigate, 

Do you really think that above sentence is true?

Or, 

You just want your sentences or beliefs to be true?

I know that it's absolutely true, because Im open to the real nature of what I am. It's absolutely obvious, and you can't "investigate" it thinking, you have to be open to it.