Nothing important is happening

[Joseph Maynor]

7 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

It’s okay, you’re not alone in not-knowing.

What is this conveying?  

[Mellowmarsh]

2 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

What is this conveying?  

It’s conveying it’s not a “someone” that knows. You are the knowing that cannot be known, because the known knows nothing.
 

This knowing is alone, one without a second, identical to not-alone. 
 

 

[VeganAwake]

6 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

I can meditate in absolute silence, even walking on the street. I'm not thinking about that self that you mention, it's just presence, but this presence is recognition of being itself. Also I can vape 40 mg nndmt, 20 of 5meo, without any hallucinations, just a hole where the mind use to be, and it's the same: presence that means recognition of being. Also big dose of mushroom, with hallucinations, but same, zero thoughts, only forms and colors, and it's the same, presence, recognition of being.

That is the fact of being conscious, if there is consciousness there is recognition of being. And this is the self. Then a model of reality based in human interaction is created, it's not false, it's a level of organization of the self. You can erase that level and there is still presence, and presence equates to self. 

That's why al hallaj, etc, said I'm the truth, etc . They mean that they are what is. The reality. 

You should talk about those enlightened people I quote. Are them delusional according your view? Nisgardatta, Ramana, Ramakrishna, Jesus, meister Eckhart, etc. Don't be offensive as a defense, just give your opinion 

Then that's what's being experienced there! It's whole, complete and perfect.

There is no issue here with that or what anyone else you mentioned believes or has said 🙏

 

[Breakingthewall]

2 hours ago, VeganAwake said:

It's whole, complete and perfect.

Whole complete and perfect are not opposite to the existence of a self. What I mean is that consciousness implies a self.

What is consciousness according to you? It is subjective experience right? "Subjective" "perceived" "being aware". Don't you see it? Implies self for the very fact of its structure. Maybe not the ego , a clean self without identification, but consciousness and self are inseparable 

Btw, what a boring people around here, this is an interesting topic but nobody is interested. They are interested only in solipsism.

[Mellowmarsh]

10 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Don't you see it

 

The "it" does not refer to a specific person, or object. Instead, it functions as a dummy subject (or placeholder) 

Dummy subject see nothing, know nothing.

 

 

[Breakingthewall]

42 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

 

The "it" does not refer to a specific person, or object. Instead, it functions as a dummy subject (or placeholder) 

Dummy subject see nothing, know nothing.

 

 

How do you know that?

[Mellowmarsh]

Just now, Breakingthewall said:

How do you know that?

I don’t. I doesn’t know. I is already being known. The known knows nothing.